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Dennis Benjamin
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posted 06-15-2009 08:51 AM

Took a listen to most of the songs on the disc.

Not really the type of music that I am into. I outgrew this stuff when I arrived into my early twenties.

I am always looking for music with more substance. Musically and Lyrically.

Don't get me wrong - I'll always be a Joe Satriani fan, just not a Chickenfoot fan.

I do like the fact that they took the peace symbol and referred to it as a 'chickenfoot'. Now every time I see a peace symbol on the back of someone's car - I will just think of a 'chickenfoot'.

I am really liking the new "Mars Volta" disc (due out soon). Also, I have just recently become a "Dream Theater" fan. Progressive Rock has more to offer....

Anyways.....
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Chad Souder
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posted 06-15-2009 12:57 PM

Well said Pravin. Filler is indeed a good description.

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Chad Souder
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posted 06-19-2009 08:45 PM

quote: Mike Blakesley
Tinted Windows. It features Cheap Trick's drummer, Bun E. Carlos, and Taylor Hansen (from the band Hansen) on vocals, James Iha (Smashing Pumpkins) on guitar and Adam Schlesinger (Fountains of Wayne) on bass.

Iha is also credited as being part of the latest installment of Perfect Circle. That band has had some crazy good songs but has changed several members. I'm not sure what the definition of supergroup really is, but if they qualify, I think Perfect Circle is the best one currently going.

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Bobby Henderson
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posted 06-20-2009 01:58 AM

I really liked the first album from A Perfect Circle, Mer de Noms. But after that I just kind of reverted to listening to whatever new release from Tool hit the shelves.

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Alan Gouger
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posted 06-20-2009 09:40 AM

quote: Dennis Benjamin
I am really liking the new "Mars Volta" disc (due out soon). Also, I have just recently become a "Dream Theater" fan. Progressive Rock has more to offer....

I have recently seen Mars Volta only once on TV in HD. Never having seen them or heard of them before I thought they were interesting, Talented. Their songs were all over the place but I enjoyed what little I saw. Most important they held my attention & I could tolerate them longer then Dream Theater. DT being made up of musicians musicians = boring. I mean who isn't a musician these days. My corner gas station attendant plays unreal guitar. Just my 2cents but every DT album sounds the same. I remember hearing an interview before the release of their latest album with the Guitar player saying ( as if its top secrete ) they cannot give any hints but it will be completely different...listening to XM radio months later I heard a song without any introduction & I immediately knew who it was...yes their new album = boring ( After the 3rd 20 minute song I had to turn it off. Great talent "no doubt" ( hey theres a name for a band ) but to mechanical and predictable for my taste.

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Chris Slycord
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posted 06-20-2009 09:57 AM

Every DT album sounds the same? Sounds like you've heard only a little bit of their work at best. Falling into Infinity sounds little like Train of Thought, for instance.

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Alan Gouger
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posted 06-20-2009 10:56 AM

quote: Chris Slycord
Sounds like you've heard only a little bit of their work at best

Not being a fan that is possible. My exposure to the band comes mostly from what ever air play has earned them over the years which for me Ive heard quit often.
Personally I could never stay awake listening to anyone of their entire albums but thats just me, no offense to those who like them.
I also find their live performance just as boring having viewed a few of their concerts on HD Net.
In an interview with "Petrucci" he complained the lack of woman showing up to their concerts, I would attribute that to the band only showcasing its technical proficiency at its shows that only other musicians could appreciate/relate over any one extended period of time.
Talented none the less.

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Chad Souder
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posted 06-20-2009 11:13 AM

quote: Bobby Henderson
But after that I just kind of reverted to listening to whatever new release from Tool hit the shelves.

Tool is one of my favorite bands ever, but unfortunately between Perfect Circle, Puscifer, contributions to other bands and his love of wine, Maynard's allotted time has Tool on the "one album every 5 years" schedule. As a greedy fan, I want new stuff every year and I want it all to be good. Tool's attention to detail and standard of excellence on all their songs is almost unmatched, and I would never complain about excellent quality control standards, I just wish they would make new music more often.

Now if you really want to get into wishes, I wish the Tapeworm project had never died. Combining two of my favorite modern song makers, that "supergroup" had the potential to be legendary.

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Bobby Henderson
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posted 06-20-2009 05:19 PM

It would be nice to see more albums from Tool more often. The band was a little more prolific in the late 1990s. Since then fans have been stuck in a holding pattern waiting.

Tool's 10,000 Days CD was pretty cool. Pretty nifty packaging with the 3D photos and stereoscopic glasses built into the case. That's something no one is going to get merely buying AAC files off iTunes. My only complaint is the sleeve containing the CD. Not kind at all to the playing surface of the CD. I made a backup of the disc and used that instead of moving the original disc in and out of that sleeve.

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Chad Souder
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posted 06-22-2009 12:41 AM

Back to the original topic, in 2003, Rolling Stone did a list of the 100 Greatest Guitarists Of All Time . Joe Satriani didn't make the list.

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Joe Redifer
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posted 06-22-2009 11:41 AM

A crapload of people didn't make that list. It's friggin' Rolling Stone of all things, so who cares?

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Chris Slycord
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posted 06-22-2009 12:45 PM

You also have to consider that Rolling Stone magazine disagrees with itself regularly with these lists. Like one time, they had a list of the 50 best artists and another of the 50 best hard rock bands (both published at the same time). And at the time, Led Zeppelin was the top Rock Band with Beatles at #2 and the Beatles were top of the artists list with Led Zeppelin not on the list at all.

Whereas they made a more recent list that had Led Zeppelin in the top 50 for best artists. They seriously can't make up their mind.

It's like how Blender rated an Insane Clown Posse album as a 3/4 then later put the same album as #1 in their list of "Worst Albums of the Year."

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Chad Souder
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posted 06-22-2009 03:25 PM

I could see the lists varying depending on who is doing the list making. This list seems to favor a guitarist's innovation and influence on music as well as their ability to make their playing sound good in a song, not just their pure ability. Perhaps that is why Satriani was snubbed. In my opinion, most of his stuff is just dazzling guitar work, but they don't stand alone as good songs. Who do you guys think should be removed to make room for Satriani?

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Chris Slycord
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posted 06-22-2009 10:31 PM

Personally, I don't think Kirk Cobain should be on the list, let alone be #12. And while I actually like his playing and quite good writing, I don't think Jack White's been around long enough to be in the top 20 all-time.

Though I'll admit that this list seems to be better compiled than most lists that Rolling Stone makes. On the other hand, the list seems pretty heavy on people who played almost exclusively from the 1950s/1960s.

I wasn't saying Satriani needs to be on the list for it to be valid or anything. I was just commenting that no one should really care about these lists.

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Bobby Henderson
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posted 06-23-2009 12:10 PM

Whoever was responsible for compiling that list of what they think is the 100 greatest guitarists of all time clearly did a shitty job.

Exactly how can one come up with a "best of" list about guitar players and not mention Chet Atkins at all? I mean really what the mother fuck? If I put together my own greatest guitar players list that highly influential player would be ranked in the top 5 or even be in a battle with Jimi Hendrix for the #1 spot.

Obviously the editor of the list had a heavy bias toward blues while largely ignoring Jazz, Country amd Metal genres. No mention of players like Earl Klugh, Pat Metheny, Al DiMeola, Stanley Jordan. Precise shredders like Steve Vai, Steve Stevens, Buckethead and Zack Wilde were unnoticed. Steve Lukather of Toto was one of the greatest session players of all time. He didn't get a notice. Neither did Tommy Tedesco. I'm also surprised Andy Summers of The Police was not mentioned.

But the magazine gives high ranks to sloppy players like Jack White and Curt Cobain. Shit, Jerry Cantrell was the greatest of grunge guitar players.

Here's the highly disputable list from Rolling Stone to save others the trouble of having to click through too many pages of swill:

quote: Rolling Stone Magazine
1 Jimi Hendrix
2 Duane Allman
3 B.B. King
4 Eric Clapton
5 Robert Johnson
6 Chuck Berry
7 Stevie Ray Vaughan
8 Ry Cooder
9 Jimmy Page, Led Zeppelin
10 Keith Richards, Rolling Stones
11 Kirk Hammett, Metallica
12 Kurt Cobain, Nirvana
13 Jerry Garcia, Grateful Dead
14 Jeff Beck
15 Carlos Santana
16 Johnny Ramone, The Ramones
17 Jack White, White Stripes
18 John Frusciante, Red Hot Chili Peppers
19 Richard Thompson
20 James Burton
21 George Harrison
22 Mike Bloomfield
23 Warren Haynes
24 The Edge, U2
25 Freddy King
26 Tom Morello, Rage Against the Machine
27 Mark Knopfler, Dire Straits
28 Stephen Stills
29 Ron Asheton, The Stooges
30 Buddy Guy
31 Dick Dale
32 John Cipollina, Quicksilver Messenger Service
33 Thurston Moore, Sonic Youth
34 Lee Ranaldo, Sonic Youth
35 John Fahey
36 Steve Cropper, Booker T. and the MG's
37 Bo Diddley
38 Peter Green, Fleetwood Mac
39 Brian May, Queen
40 John Fogerty, Creedence Clearwater Revival
41 Clarence White, The Byrds
42 Robert Fripp, King Crimson
43 Eddie Hazel, Funkadelic
44 Scotty Moore
45 Frank Zappa
46 Les Paul
47 T-Bone Walker
48 Joe Perry, Aerosmith
49 John McLaughlin
50 Pete Townshend, The Who
51 Paul Kossoff, Free
52 Lou Reed
53 Mickey Baker
54 Jorma Kaukonen, Jefferson Airplane
55 Ritchie Blackmore, Deep Purple
56 Tom Verlaine, Television
57 Roy Buchanan
58 Dickey Betts, Allman Brothers Band
59 Jonny Greenwood, Radiohead
60 Ed O'Brien, Radiohead
61 Ike Turner
62 Zoot Horn Rollo, The Magic Band
63 Danny Gatton
64 Mick Ronson
65 Hubert Sumlin
66 Vernon Reid, Living Color
67 Link Wray
68 Jerry Miller, Moby Grape
69 Steve Howe, Yes
70 Eddie Van Halen
71 Lightnin' Hopkins
72 Joni Mitchell
73 Trey Anastasio, Phish
74 Johnny Winter
75 Adam Jones, Tool
76 Ali Farka Toure
77 Henry Vestine, Canned Heat
78 Robbie Robertson, The Band
79 Cliff Gallup, The Blue Cops
80 Robert Quine, The Voidoids
81 Derek Trucks
82 David Gilmour, Pink Floyd
83 Neil Young
84 Eddie Cochran
85 Randy Rhoads
86 Tommy Iommi, Black Sabbath
87 Joan Jett
88 Dave Davies, The Kinks
89 D. Boon, The Minutemen
90 Glen Buxton, Alice Cooper
91 Robby Krieger, The Doors
92 Wayne Kramer, The MC5
93 Fred "Sonic" Smith, The MC5
94 Bert Jansch
95 Kevin Shields, My Bloody Valentine
96 Angus Young, AC/DC
97 Robert Randolph
98 Leigh Stephens, Blue Cheer
99 Greg Ginn, Black Flag
100 Kim Thayil, Soundgarden

I'm not a big Neil Young fan and I certainly don't think he needs to be on a Top 100 list of best guitar players. It sounds like he plays the same damned solo on every song.

I noticed Joan Jett got a spot in the list. Wasn't Lita Ford the lead guitar player in The Runaways? Joan Jett wasn't even the lead player in her own solo band.

It's funny to see Randy Rhoads ranked clear down at #85. Even though his career was short lived he ran neck and neck with Eddie Van Halen for most influential rock guitarist of the 1980s. I'll even say Rhoads did more to influence the sound of hair band metal than Van Halen did.

It's also worth noting that while Rolling Stone gave Eddie Van Halen a mere #70 rank on their list Spike TV's first Guy's Choice Awards, 2009 gave Eddie Van Halen its Guitar God award. I could see the 2010 version giving the Guitar God award to Angus Young of AC/DC (ranked #96 on the RS list).

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