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Topic: Has anyone upgraded to Snow Leopard?
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Galen Murphy-Fahlgren
Master Film Handler
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From: Canton, MI, USA
Registered: Oct 2007
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posted 09-02-2009 01:15 PM
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Linux has made significant inroads thanks to some professional level applications being compiled for certain builds of Linux.
Bobby, as right as you are on all your other points, let's call this one what it is. Linux is a better platform for the sort of work that involves this kind of computing power. Linux is the most affordable OS that has a number of characteristics, specifically extremely low use of system resources, native sourcing for almost every CPU architecture, and supports 1024 CPUs. It is also generally more stable than Macintosh or Windows, whereas I've found those two to be very comparable in that regard, and it is easier to maintain.
So, does Linux make prettier pictures than Mac or Windows? No, absolutely not, but it does make a better platform for running software on a giant rendering farm with lots of CPUs (essentially a supercomputer). When your products consistently make $400-500 million, everything about the process is very deliberate.
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Joe Redifer
You need a beating today
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From: Denver, Colorado
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posted 09-02-2009 02:07 PM
Standard Linux cannot run Final Cut Pro, and I MUST ABSOLUTELY have Final Cut Pro. It could be argued that Mac OS X is a flavor of Linux. Basically, it is. Bobby, FCP is still very full featured. Apple has not been ignoring it at all. Only DVD Studio Pro, which is still the best DVD authoring app anywhere, has really been ignored.
Anywho (don't you just HATE it when people say that? I sure do. That's why I said it), I have decided that I really like Snow Leopard and will install it on my main drive in a few minutes here. It seems to be working fine with everything I need it to, and a bit snappier as a result. The hard disk activity has stopped, it might have been building the "Spotlight" search database. By the way, searching for files and information inside any file is definitely something that Macs do better than Windows... and shit-tons faster, too! ![[Smile]](smile.gif)
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Aaron Garman
Phenomenal Film Handler
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From: Toledo, OH USA
Registered: Mar 2003
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posted 09-02-2009 11:39 PM
I started on Apple ]['s, then used Windows forever, and just switched back to Macs 3 years ago. I haven't looked back.
While Windows can be functional and necessary at times, it one of the most annoying products I've ever had to use:
-Ugly as sin
-Many 3rd party programs are counterintuitive, don't work, or just scream "an engineer designed me"
-No taste, no style, and sometimes no logic.
Since switching to a Mac, I've never had so much joy working on a computer. It's beautiful to use, interact with, and things just make sense. Apps, even third party ones, look great, function, and have some logic.
I use a Mac at home and work. At work I run Windows on it too, as well as use a range of Windows machines due to proprietary ticketing and event software. It drives me insane to use those Windows programs because of how counterintuitive, ugly, and buggy they can be.
I kind of look at it this way: Mac's have standards, Windows doesn't. Sure, Adobe CS stuff will be great on both platforms, but Adobe isn't your average software developer, they're a GIANT.
And I can't agree more that Apple is selling a user experience, not hardware and software. That is THE draw and biggest selling point of owning an Apple product.
AJG
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Bobby Henderson
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From: Lawton, OK, USA
Registered: Apr 2001
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posted 09-03-2009 12:26 AM
quote: Galen Murphy-Fahlgren
Bobby, as right as you are on all your other points, let's call this one what it is. Linux is a better platform for the sort of work that involves this kind of computing power.
That's only if the applications being used run natively under Linux. I will never run a Windows-compiled version of Photoshop, Illustrator or even CorelDRAW under a layer of emulation. Certain 3D rendering programs and node-based video compositing programs do run natively under Linux and there's plenty of production houses using those kind of setups.
Both Windows and the MacOS support symmetric multiprocessing and preemptive multitasking very well. Linux gains an advantage in terms of licensing costs when the processing load is spread out across a rendering farm.
quote: Joe Redifer
Standard Linux cannot run Final Cut Pro, and I MUST ABSOLUTELY have Final Cut Pro. It could be argued that Mac OS X is a flavor of Linux. Basically, it is. Bobby, FCP is still very full featured. Apple has not been ignoring it at all. Only DVD Studio Pro, which is still the best DVD authoring app anywhere, has really been ignored.
FCP doesn't properly support Blu-ray authoring. I think that's a significant drawback, especially when Adobe's Production Studio suite has been offering BD support for 2 version cycles. I think if Apple had embraced Blu-ray a couple or so years ago (like Adobe did) all of the video editing suites from Apple, Adobe, Avid, etc. would be even better as a result of the increased competition.
The judgment "everyone just wants DVD" is pretty contrary to Apple's previous history of being on the cutting edge. Final Cut Pro and DVD Studio Pro were products well ahead of their time. They were made available well before DVD burners and blank DVD discs were affordable to everyone. Most people were still buying/renting movies on VHS at the time.
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Joe Redifer
You need a beating today
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From: Denver, Colorado
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posted 09-03-2009 03:18 AM
quote: Bobby Henderson
FCP doesn't properly support Blu-ray authoring.
Tell me what is wrong with this (which is right from the FCP timeline):
If you have a Blu-ray burner, you can do that as well. And why should the VIDEO EDITING application get points knocked off for not being a full-featured BD Authoring app as well? The editing app shouldn't be expected to do ANY authoring of any kind! It's amazing that FCP even does this. I guess Premiere Pro sucks donkey balls for not even going this far, eh? Anyway, the lack of "proper" BD authoring is DVD Studio Pro's fault, which I already mentioned. Final Cut Pro is a VERY full featured editing application as I said before. Final Cut Pro is NOT being ignored by Apple, not in the least. DVD Studio Pro is. Please, I do not wish to type that a 3rd time. Bobby, knocking an editor over not being able to burn "proper" BDs is grasping at straws. But then again, you don't really do video or even, to my knowledge, aspire to (beyond regular camcordered home movies). So your opinions on the video subject don't really count as much as those who do. You just want to bitch about Apple.
Encore is a major pain for authoring anything, and even it is FAR from a "proper" Blu-ray authoring program.
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Bobby Henderson
"Ask me about Trajan."
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From: Lawton, OK, USA
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posted 09-03-2009 01:04 PM
quote: Joe Redifer
The editing app shouldn't be expected to do ANY authoring of any kind! It's amazing that FCP even does this. I guess Premiere Pro sucks donkey balls for not even going this far, eh? Anyway, the lack of "proper" BD authoring is DVD Studio Pro's fault, which I already mentioned.
Joe, I have been referring to Final Cut Studio on the whole. DVD Studio Pro is part of that suite. Cursory, no frills BD writing support from the video editing application alone is very basic -especially when compared to what all the FCP studio can do with DVD authoring.
It's also worth repeating Apple doesn't sell any of its systems with a Blu-ray burner or BD combo drive. And there's no sign of them doing so in the future either. Apple just makes their customers buy something after market that they won't support. Meanwhile, you can buy other computers with BD burners factory equipped and with full warranty support often for a less money as well. Apple's systems are expensive, but with good reason. Still, the lack of a cutting edge BD burner is a serious knock and will become more of a problem as Blu-ray continues to grow in popularity.
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