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Author Topic: Have you ever gotten your memory back after an accident? Clint Koch Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1435 From: San Luis Obispo, CA, USA Registered: Feb 2002 posted 09-06-2009 09:45 PM                     Randy, I am very sorry to hear about this and wish you a quick recovery. To answer the topics question, from experience, no, you will not remember what actually happened. I was hit back in 1976 by a motorcycle while on a bicycle. I remember seeing the motorcycle coming at me yet it was still a good 30 yards away from me. I do not remember the impact or the 30 yards traveled by the motorcycle before it hit me. The next thing I can remember is coming to with a few dozen people around me. Nothing else.  |  IP: Logged Emma Tomiak Expert Film Handler Posts: 238 From: Carrollton, TX, USA Registered: Aug 2003 posted 09-06-2009 11:55 PM                        quote: Randy Stankey Do girls ride "ladies" bikes anymore? That whole thing about the top bar is rather silly. Isn't it? That design change was only made for women in the 1890's so their skirts wouldn't ride up and get caught. Do women who ride bikes today even give a horse's patootie? I specifically asked for the regular model, not the "ladies" model, even though they suggested I look at that first. I think "ladies" bikes are just plain ugly. I rarely wear skirts/dresses, and would sure as hell never ride a bike wearing one, so there is no point for me to buy an ugly girl bike.  |  IP: Logged Demetris Thoupis Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1240 From: Aradippou, Larnaca, Cyprus Registered: Apr 2001 posted 09-07-2009 12:13 AM                     Looking forward to your swift recovery. In 1996 when I was trying to cross the road to get to the bus stop and a tourist big bus just ramped me across the street! It lead to multiple head injuries, dislocation of my jaw which is still vissible and I don't really care of putting it back now and a big swollen eye. The stangiest thing about it is that I was hit from the right side and my left eye got all swollen! I only recall the minute I tried to cross the road and after that I remember getting in an ambulance and reaching the hospital and then waking up in a bed! I though cracked the whole front windshield of the bus and the police was so qurious how I managed to crack it! Guess it was a fast impact. I did not break any other bone on that day but I sure remember the experience. It really sucks doesn't it.  |  IP: Logged John Wilson Film God Posts: 5438 From: Sydney, Australia. Registered: Dec 1999 posted 09-07-2009 04:26 AM                     Hi Randy Ouch! Wishing you a speedy recovery from this side of the half-way mark. Hope the pain is bearable at least. John  |  IP: Logged Jim Bedford Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 597 From: Telluride, CO, USA (733 mi. WNW of Rockwall, TX but it seems much, much longer) Registered: Jun 99 posted 09-07-2009 09:21 AM                        I "ouch" you too Randy. Get better fast. I have a hard-core, road-bike-riding bro-in-law who got sideswiped by a 17 YO girl who was talking on a cell phone and never saw him riding on the edge of the road. Destroyed his helmet and made his ear mostly go away but he's back to 100%, but it took almost a year. I gotta say though, regardless of the law and freedom of choice, I don't quite understand why people put themselves on a 25 pound bike and then compete for space with 2000-4000 pound vehicles doing two to ten times their speed. You can jump out of a plane without a parachute too. Many drivers are inattentive idiots and I don't want to take the chance when the odds are stacked so much in their favor. I mountain bike all the time and frequently use it as in-town transportation in our little mountain town. But mostly I'm on back streets or bike trails. The only time I'm ever on a highway is when I cross them, usually walking the bike. Basically I'm just scared shitless to ride with traffic on busier roads.  |  IP: Logged Randy Stankey Film God Posts: 6539 From: Erie, Pennsylvania Registered: Jun 99 posted 09-07-2009 10:10 AM                     Thanks again for all the encouragement! I am getting better, day by day. I took my pain pills last night at approx. 10:00 PM. I'm supposed to take them every 4 to 6 hours. I went to bed just after midnight. I didn't wake up again until 8:30-9:00 AM and I hadn't needed the pills all evening. I took another dose at about 9:30 but I don't expect to take any more pills until after lunch. The prescription says to take two pills but I think I'm going to cut back to one. I don't know... We'll see how it goes. Here, take a look at this map picture: (Sorry... 550 pixel limit makes it hard to see the details.) The light yellow lines are main thoroughfares. Route 5 (AKA 12th St.) is the main drag (east-west) through this area. Route 299 (AKA Powell Av.) is the cross street (north-south) near my house. Google Earth plotted the purple line as the shortest distance between the pins on the map. It's an "okay" route but not the most commonly used one. The RED line is the route I plotted. It takes back streets through the neighborhood. It's the route that folks who live in the neighborhood might take. Here's the thing: I started out by the yellow map pin in the upper-right corner of the map. I was headed west on Rt. 5. (Diagonal down-left on the map.) Basically following the purple or red lines. I got run over at approximately the place where the circular white "Rt. 5" symbol is on the map. Barely 50 yards from the starting point. I hadn't even come to the intersection where I would have had to make a decision on which route was the best, the safest, the fastest or even the most fun route to take. I was still 50 to 100 yards away from the point where I would have even been able to make that decision. I hear you guys talking about how cars don't respect bikes, pedestrians and other things. I agree with you guys, 90%! But, damn-blast-it!! I didn't even get a freakin' chance to make up my mind!  |  IP: Logged Joe Elliott Master Film Handler Posts: 497 From: Port Orange, Fl USA Registered: Oct 2006 posted 09-08-2009 01:00 AM                     From the close-up you posted earlier, it kinda looks like that office building has a sign or something blocking the view of anyone leaving too. If that's the case, you would have a lawsuit against them too. If that's the case, personally, I would file one, and tell them I would drop it if they fix the blind spot. But that's only a guess from the picture.  |  IP: Logged Chad Souder Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 962 From: Waterloo, IA, USA Registered: Feb 2000 posted 09-08-2009 06:01 PM                     So it's been just over a week and it sounds like you're making healthy progress. That's great to hear! Best of luck in the coming weeks. The one piece of advice I can give you is do NO negotiating with the insurance company of the woman who hit you until you are fully healed. This could be 6 months from now or a year from now or two years from now, but that's how it needs to go. After my crash, I wasn't looking for any big pay day, but a person's car insurance takes it completely out of their hands. Whoever hit you could call her insurance company day after day begging to give you a large settlement because it was her fault and she feels horrible, but it won't matter. Insurance companies love to take their premiums, but they are very stingy at giving it back out. If they haven't already, they will be contacting you pretending to have concern about how you are doing and how you are feeling and then offer you some piddly amount for pain and suffering. Don't be offended like I was, it's their job. Regardless of the level of intent/stupidity of the driver, it won't matter much. Her insurance company will fight for her case the same as yours would for you. It's just how the game is played. Now, I am by no means offering legal advice here, but in my situation, I found a cheaper compromise between lawyer and nothing at all. In my area, there is a former insurance adjuster that after retiring, formed a business helping people that have been in accidents. Enyart Claims Consulting is the name. How they work is, they do all the legwork the lawyer would do then bring it to a lawyer (if necessary) they regularly work with who in turns takes a smaller percentage because they don't have to do all that work. They just present the case, usually to a mediator (such things rarely make it to trial) and everyone settles. A lawyer for a case like this would typically take 33% of the settlement. In my situation, the lawyer took 20% and Enyart's fees came out of his cut. So, in the end, I ended up with knowledgeable representation at a smaller cost. The reason it works is because a normal lawyer is lucky to get 5-7 cases per year. There's a lot of them around. With good word of mouth references, these guys were able to bring their lawyer(s) as many as 10 cases a month. Huge incentive to take a smaller percentage. And, if it never gets to the point where it rises to the level of needing a lawyer involved, these guys charged a reasonable hourly fee, carefully documenting all the time they actually spent working on the case, not rounding up to the nearest hour like a normal lawyer does. I still have their old itemized summary and I was shocked to see a total charge of $20 for filing, phone calls and etc. A lawyer my sister had a few years ago charged her $95 for one 5 minute phone call. Anyway, it may be worth checking into in your area. I have no idea if someone like that exists there or not. I do know, however, that the insurance company representing the driver will try and buy you off as cheaply as possible as quickly as possible. Wait until there is no question about permanent injury before you have any conversation with them. If you want to settle on the bike only, that's fine because it won't change much. Good luck with everything. It's a horrible, long process to go through but remember, it wasn't your fault and you're not being greedy by receiving a cash settlement plus hospital bills. Money is what is used to compensate people for pain, loss, incapacitation, disability, etc. in this country.  |  IP: Logged Joe Redifer You need a beating today Posts: 12859 From: Denver, Colorado Registered: May 99 posted 09-08-2009 06:48 PM                        I've said it before and I'll say it now: Money is more important than ANYTHING else on the planet, even life. That's a fact.  |  IP: Logged Bobby Henderson "Ask me about Trajan." Posts: 10973 From: Lawton, OK, USA Registered: Apr 2001 posted 09-10-2009 09:39 PM                     Around 5:45pm this evening in Edmond, OK (a suburb north of Oklahoma City) a bicyclist was struck and killed by a truck hauling drywall. The bicyclist was riding on the sidewalk, but lost control of his bike entering Kelly Ave. where he was struck by the truck. He was declared dead at the scene. Ugh. Reports didn't say whether the bicyclist was wearing a helmet. Not that it would have made any difference. Moral of the story: when you're going to crash your bicycle try to crash onto the grass or the sidewalk itself and not in the middle of the street!  |  IP: Logged Randy Stankey Film God Posts: 6539 From: Erie, Pennsylvania Registered: Jun 99 posted 09-10-2009 11:48 PM                     Oh, shit! That's rough! I'm sorry to hear the guy got killed. But it's good to know that he didn't suffer very much. And from what I experienced, I can say with confidence that the guy didn't even know what happened. (At least I can hope so.)  |  IP: Logged Joe Redifer You need a beating today Posts: 12859 From: Denver, Colorado Registered: May 99 posted 09-11-2009 12:14 AM                        True, he probably doesn't even know he's dead. He probably did experience some fear as he was struggling to control his bike during his final moments.  |  IP: Logged Randy Stankey Film God Posts: 6539 From: Erie, Pennsylvania Registered: Jun 99 posted 09-11-2009 01:21 AM                     It's a weird feeling. It's like somebody just turned off the movie, all of a sudden. The screen goes black. I remember, maybe, 20 seconds of riding the bike. Then there is just NOTHING. I don't know what hit me. I don't even know from what direction. A person who has an accident like that guy's would probably remember thinking, "Oh, shit!" as they lose control of the bike but, even if there was 5 or 10 seconds between the time of losing control and getting run over, I don't think those memories would be stored in the mind. It is my belief that the guy's last thought was "Oh, shit!" and then it was "LIGHTS OUT!" (At least I sincerely hope so!)  |  IP: Logged Joe Redifer You need a beating today Posts: 12859 From: Denver, Colorado Registered: May 99 posted 09-11-2009 03:02 AM                        I don't think it would be akin as if the screen when black, as then you'd know that the screen was black. Instead, it was almost as if some footage was cut out and you didn't realize it until well after the splice had passed. It was probably a shitty splice, too.  |  IP: Logged Randy Stankey Film God Posts: 6539 From: Erie, Pennsylvania Registered: Jun 99 posted 09-11-2009 10:10 AM                     quote: Joe Redifer It was probably a shitty splice, too. :LOL: Actually it was one of the smoothest splices I've ever seen. For me, there is some "black space" in between my last solid memory of starting to pedal the bike and my next memory of being coaxed into the ambulance. Even though I have no memory of the accident I definitely sense the passage of time, even though I don't know exactly how much time. I do know that the time from the end of "reel 1" in the movie to the start of "reel 2" in the movie is different. I just don't know how long. It's just a weird feeling. When you are sitting in a movie and the projector suddenly stops... JUST STOPS!... that's what it feels like. Imagine like somebody pulled the main power disconnect on the entire projector all of a sudden without warning. There would be a short period of time... maybe 5 or 10 seconds... when the audience doesn't realize what has happened. They sit there, somewhat dazed and confused. It takes them time to figure out that the movie has stopped. Now, just before they realize that the movie has stopped, "reel 2" kicks in but, when the projector starts, the picture is out of frame and out of focus and the sound is all wobbly. Now there are several more minutes of confusion while the audience tries to figure out what happened to the second reel. It probably takes until the second reel is half over before the picture stabilizes and the audience understands what's going on. (Yes! I'm pissed off and I want a fuckin' refund! ) For the guy who got hit by the truck, I think the movie goes: "Oh, shit!"... "Reel 1" cuts out but there is no "reel 2".  |  IP: Logged

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