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Author Topic: Have you ever gotten your memory back after an accident? Randy Stankey Film God Posts: 6539 From: Erie, Pennsylvania Registered: Jun 99 posted 09-16-2009 07:25 PM                     Just an update on things: Tomorrow I go to the doctor for my official checkup. I expect to get the OK to return to work, at least on "light duty." (i.e. No lifting, no ladders, no catwalks, etc., etc.) In fact, if they don't immediately say so, I'm telling THEM that I am going back to work! I couldn't STAND being cooped up in the house for another week! My bike came back from the shop yesterday. They replaced the front wheel and the saddle. They took it out and test drove it for a post-crash checkup. They say it's all good. I'm not supposed to be riding it but, I don't know... Somehow ten miles got clocked on the odometer this evening! I was very careful! I stayed away from all the main streets. I only rode on neighborhood back roads. I never went over 10-15 MPH. I was very careful. Y'Know... Even if I don't ride that bike for another two weeks, it was important for me to get back up and ride on the first opportunity I had. It's a psychological thing. Get it?  |  IP: Logged Mark Gulbrandsen Resident Trollmaster Posts: 16657 From: Music City Registered: Jun 99 posted 09-16-2009 07:52 PM                     quote: Joe Redifer That wasn't very bright of them. A ton of bicycles going down the road for an event and they didn't close it? In this case UDOT was correct. They can't close a major through road like that just for a bunch of bicyclists.... The bicyclists need to go out in the desert where they will have to expend some real energy to get going fast... no one will bother them out there either. The thought of a bicycle race going mainly down hill to me is outright stupid. It just doesn't take any effort and is stupid dangerous as they prooved. Mark  |  IP: Logged Joe Redifer You need a beating today Posts: 12859 From: Denver, Colorado Registered: May 99 posted 09-16-2009 08:56 PM                        quote: Randy Stankey Y'Know... Even if I don't ride that bike for another two weeks, it was important for me to get back up and ride on the first opportunity I had. It's a psychological thing. Get it? It totally is! When I got in a car wreck, one of the first things I did was drive again (not my car since it was totaled), and I also drove it through the intersection where the accident happened a few times... all by myself. Very therapeutic.  |  IP: Logged Randy Stankey Film God Posts: 6539 From: Erie, Pennsylvania Registered: Jun 99 posted 09-16-2009 10:22 PM                     My mother drove me back to the bike shop on the day I got out of the hospital. All I wanted to do is go home and go to sleep. As pissed off as I was, it was probably a good thing I did go and face it. I still don't remember shit. I started peddling and the next thing I remember, they are trying to get me to go in the ambulance. All very surreal. Except for pros or skilled amateurs, I kind of agree with Mark. Riding a bicycle down hill all the time isn't worth it. Most people ride for fun and exercise. Right? Now, if we're talking about "Tour de France" kind of bicycling, things are different. Those guys are pros. Riding all different types of terrain is meant to test their abilities. Getting up to 50+ MPH going downhill in a tight pack like that is not something I'd want to do but, for those guys, it's an "assumed risk." If somebody doesn't want to face that danger then they shouldn't race. That's how the game is played. But that's not what I ride bicycles for so I'm with you. Ride elsewhere unless you're ready to accept the conequences.  |  IP: Logged Bobby Henderson "Ask me about Trajan." Posts: 10973 From: Lawton, OK, USA Registered: Apr 2001 posted 09-16-2009 10:54 PM                     The thing is with those Tour De France guys -those fellas are experts at cycling, they're elite athletes and they also have biking equipment that is truly built for the task (and frighteningly expensive). When they go flying down some mountainside road they're experienced at doing it. Then again, usually those guys are doing so on a closed course. Screw riding like that on any open highway! I chuckled at the recent Tour De France 2009 broadcast on Versus HD -not at the cyclists, but at their support vehicles hauling 4 or 5 back up bicycles all costing upwards of $10,000 or more per bike. Regarding the "facing your fear" thing, I believe in that as well. Back when I was a kid I was really into diving. I just barely hit my head on the board during one dive and it freaked me out. It was the hardest thing to force myself to do more flips to overcome the fear of hitting my head again.  |  IP: Logged Galen Murphy-Fahlgren Master Film Handler Posts: 405 From: Canton, MI, USA Registered: Oct 2007 posted 09-16-2009 11:01 PM                     Yeah, racing downhill may not work your legs that much, but your heart is hammering. Last time I visited my parents, I went out with my dad and some of his employees on one of their regular rides out of the office, which involves scaling the biggest hill in town. I thought creeping up a huge "hill" at 2mph was the most terrifying thing I'd ever done until we started to descend. Even on my dad's sweet ti road bike with Campy Record brakes, I was sweating bullets, riding the brakes the whole way down. I was only doing about 25mph, but staring down that hill it felt like I was about to start flying if I let off the brakes. Scary. Bobby, $10k would be a conservative estimate for a top Tour rider's bike. Even on top of the cost of the equipment, the marquee riders spend tons of time and money in wind tunnels and with sports doctors every season getting the bike fit perfect and getting their aero profile down. I know a few people with bikes over $10k who ride for pleasure and don't formally race at all. And, most professional riders actually suck at descents. This is why Floyd Landis cleaned up in stage 17 in '06, because he was a mountain biker and knew how to descend. Most of the other guys have no upper body strength, and are more afraid of going over the bars than anything else.  |  IP: Logged Bobby Henderson "Ask me about Trajan." Posts: 10973 From: Lawton, OK, USA Registered: Apr 2001 posted 09-16-2009 11:27 PM                     I'm mainly using the $10,000 barrier as a separator between the high end bikes from mainstream brands like Trek versus having something completely custom built from the ground up -which is naturally a lot more expensive. Regarding the exercise you get from cycling, yeah I agree cycling is a good exercise but you have to augment it with other things. I do a good bit of calisthenics, some weight training, lots of push ups and quite a bit of running. The running makes a good difference on how strong I am in cycling. It gets hotter than a $2 pistol here in Oklahoma during summer time. Only recently it has become cool enough for me to get back into running more frequently. Since I've been doing that, my 24 mile and 32 mile bike ride times have improved a decent amount. The struggle most bicyclists have is the tendency to coast. You have that issue and then if you're riding on a bike path you have frequent obstacles -mainly dip shit pedestrians who can't stay in the fucking right lane -they gotta wander all over the centerline and then run freaking left like a moron when you're trying to pass on the left! Assholes! Just once, I'd like to run my front bike tire up the spine of one of these iPod wearing wonders to teach them a lesson. But I can't do that. Gotta run off the path into whatever terrain is there to keep from hurting anyone except myself if I crash. Did I mention I don't like pedestrians on bicycle paths?  |  IP: Logged Randy Stankey Film God Posts: 6539 From: Erie, Pennsylvania Registered: Jun 99 posted 09-17-2009 12:11 AM                     Personaly, I'm not into "Tour de France" riding in any fashion. Probably never will be. The whole frickin' reason I got into this was because, last March, I weighed 278 lbs. (I'm 6' 2" tall.) I just got sick and tired of being sick and tired. I went to the doctor, took a physical and I told him what I was going to do to lose weight. I told him how I was going to change my diet. I told him how much exercise I was going to get. I told him how much weight I wanted to lose and when. All I wanted him to do was give me a "sanity check" and sign off on the plan. (He also gave me some good advice to go along with my plan.) I started watching what I eat and going for 30-60 minute walks almost every day. (Not no "sissy" walks! I mean a "hustle!") It worked well for about 2-1/2 to 3 months. Then I plateaued. I got down to a hair under 260 lbs then I gained a couple pounds back. I'd lose it then gain it right back. It was a real bitch to break the 260 mark for more than a couple-three days. I decided that I needed to do something. Either I was going to have to drastically cut calories or drastically increase workouts. You can't cut your diet back too much because it will make your body go into "starvation mode." I decided to keep the diet the same and go for the exercise. I thought about all the things I could do: Running, going to the gym or the pool, etc. I like swimming but the gym and running aren't for me. Out of all the stuff I thought up, biking was the best. It's more exercise than walking. If you do it right, you can even get more of a workout than running or going to the gym. And, "Hey!" I thought, it's a lot more fun, too! Well, you know the rest of the story! Just pisses me off! I'm trying to lose weight and get healthy! Look what fuckin' happens! In the last 2-1/2 weeks I've been at home so I can go out walking two or three times a day. I'm not allowed to drive so I can't go to the store and buy junk food. I'm getting a lot more exercise and eating a lot less. (Yes! It's the true definition of "crash diet!") Right now, I'm down to 253 lbs. I've lost 25, almost 26 pounds total! However, I plan to go back to work next week. The lack of sustained exercise and "stress eating" (munching on junk food when I don't need it) are going to start up again. I need to get on my frickin' horse and get the trend going down and KEEP it going down, at least until winter sets in. If I do that, I can get off another 5 or even 10 pounds before the weather closes in. I'll be good till spring if I just be sensible. Remember the speedometer/trip computer I put on the bike? Well, today, I put in 10 miles on the road at a moderate 10-15 MPH pace over the space of an hour. My calculations say I spent between 950 and 1,000 calories on that ride as compared with 500-600 calories if I walked 3-4 MPH for the same period of time. Not to shabby! If I can keep THAT up, I'll be weighing under 225 in no time! (My goal weight.) Add in the occasional ride to work instead of driving the car. On weekends I can take a long ride if I ever feel up to it. That will make it even easier. With all that, I MIGHT still be able to get down close to goal weight before the winter! Then I go out and get creamed by some stupid lady driving a car! Life is fuckin' beautiful! Isn't it?  |  IP: Logged John Wilson Film God Posts: 5438 From: Sydney, Australia. Registered: Dec 1999 posted 09-17-2009 03:38 AM                     One word...Gymnasium. Much safer...and you get to look at others in tight-fitting clothes.  |  IP: Logged Randy Stankey Film God Posts: 6539 From: Erie, Pennsylvania Registered: Jun 99 posted 09-17-2009 07:58 PM                     Maybe in the winter I'll check out a gym. We spend too much time indoors all winter long. By the time summer rolls around, you want to do something outdoors. I was a swimmer in high school and college. It came down to bicycling or swimming. I decided against swimming because I wanted something you could just go out and "do." BTW: I put in almost 25 miles today. I rode 15 miles around Presque Isle State Park. Google Maps: Presque Isle State Park They have a bike/multi-purpose path that goes all around the park. 14.7 miles from the "base" of the park, to the end and back. I did another 10 miles around the neighborhood after dinner. Given my level of physical condition, that's pretty much my maximum. My legs are like rubber & my ass is sore but I'm happy I finally got to go out and ride. I'm going to take the day off from riding tomorrow. I'll try to ride some more on Saturday and Sunday but not quite so far. Monday, it's back to work. Damn! I'm glad I'm finally getting to do what I started out to do!  |  IP: Logged Martin Brooks Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 900 From: Forest Hills, NY, USA Registered: May 2002 posted 09-18-2009 10:05 PM                        Congrats on the recovery and I'm glad to hear that you're back riding. I'm a casual bike rider myself, I generally do 2-3 20 mile rides per week around New York City. Manhattan now has a fair number of protected bike lanes, so it's relatively safe. I've never come close to being hit, but I have been doored several times (which is illegal in NYC - I could have actually called the police and had them ticketed, but I didn't.) Since you're doing long rides, be aware of the following. There's a vein in the crotch that can become compressed from sitting on the seat so long. If you ever have no feeling "down there", it's become compressed and you need to get a different bike seat - either one where the rear of the seat can be angled to be higher, so you're really just sitting on your butt or one where there's a cutout in the seat. And...the second thing to go is the knees. And they won't necessarily feel painful, but if they start to feel weak when you get off the bike, it's better to do a greater number of shorter rides than fewer longer rides. I have a very bad back, but I've always been able to ride, even when my back is out because there's far less pressure on the spine riding, then there is when you're standing on your feet. Although I also bike ride for the pleasure and exercise, it's actually not very good exercise. A several hour bike ride only drops a few hundred calories. One bottle of juice or non-diet soft drink has more calories than you'll drop on a typical casual ride. Good luck...and be careful!  |  IP: Logged Bobby Henderson "Ask me about Trajan." Posts: 10973 From: Lawton, OK, USA Registered: Apr 2001 posted 09-20-2009 12:38 AM                     I had another bike riding incident a couple days ago that had me pissed off but good. I'm riding laps on the bike path at Elmer Thomas Park in Lawton as usual. I'm speeding downhill toward the 3rd street crosswalk. Some big Toyota looking SUV is parked across the cross walk. I wave my arms signaling the SUV to move. I lay into my annoying electronic horn. The fucking SUV is still not moving. Then I start yelling "get the hell out of the damned way already! MOVE!!!!!" This idiot, asshole chick is too busy taking photos of the Edward Scissorhands animal bushes to bother to see something like bicyclists coming from the other direction. I had to veer off the path, hop the curb and go behind this stupid bitch's SUV. If you want to take photos of the sculpted shrubbery, GET OUT OF YOUR FUCKING VEHICLE TO DO IT, DUMB ASS! Do NOT block the fucking crosswalk!!!!  |  IP: Logged Randy Stankey Film God Posts: 6539 From: Erie, Pennsylvania Registered: Jun 99 posted 09-20-2009 08:28 PM                     Martin, My bicycle seat doesn't have a cutout but it's got a "gully" running down the middle. I have been watching out for the effect you mention. I haven't had a problem yet. I have made two more circuits around the state park this weekend. Once on Saturday. Once more today. That makes three trips in 4 days. The total distance all the way around it 14.7 miles. That's just about all I want to do. My first trip around took just a bit under 90 minutes. The second trip, yesterday, took 80 minutes and the third took 76 minutes. My average speed on the last trip was 12 MPH. That's up from 10 MPH on the first ride. When I was on the swimming team, I learned that the biggest trick to physical conditioning is to keep your heart rate going at a good pace. Find a pace that is 20 beats per minute over your average resting rate and hold that for a minimum of 30 minutes. As you progress and become more fit, you will have to work more, swim harder or ride faster to maintain that rate. As you notice it becoming easier to maintain your pace, you will have to "up the ante" to increase your level of fitness. The speedometer/trip computer I have on the bike calculates average speed. There are two little arrows to indicate if you are above or below the average. When I started out, I arbitrarily set my speed at 10 MPH. I occasionally monitor my progress to keep my average at or above 10 MPH. I feel good that I have been able to increase my average speed from 10 to 12 MPH in only a few rides. If I can keep the pace and, hopefully, get it up to 14 or 15 MPH I will be able to burn approximately 1,200 calories per hour of bike riding. My basal calorie expenditure is approx. 2,500 to 3,000 calories per day. A 1,000 calorie increase is quite a bit. If I can keep spending 1,000 extra calories three days per week, plus keep going for evening walks on the off days I think I'll be in good shape by the time the weather closes in and I have to stop biking for the winter. My original plan was to get my weight down to 250 pounds by July or August. I'm a bit behind schedule. Right now, I'm at 255 lbs. but if the weather holds I think I can hit my goal, even if it's a bit late. Bobby, Most of the riding I have been doing is on a multi-purpose trail. When it was built it was SUPPOSED to be a bike path but, over the years, it got overtaken. Now there are walkers, Rollerbladers and even people taking their dogs for a walk. Personally, I don't mind other people on the path but it's the "oblivious" ones that really cause trouble. Some people go fast. Some people go slow. That's life. You've just got to get used to shit like that. But, regardless of how fast or slow a person goes, they have to remember one thing: THEY AREN'T THE ONLY ONES USING THE DAMN PATH! I go out of my way to slow down when I come up behind somebody. I whistle or holler a warning if I have to. I try to remember that, even though I'm only going 15 MPH, there might be somebody else going 20 MPH, coming right up my ass at any moment. If there's one thing I learned by cracking up and ending up in the hospital it's patience. But patience can still wear thin when I feel like other people aren't returning the thought. That fat bitch in the SUV (I don't know if she was really fat but stupid people like that are almost always fat! ) reminds me of the stupid, fat, bitches in the grocery store who clog up the aisle with their shopping carts parked right in the middle of the lane! I bet your SUV bitch is one of those stupid ones who also park their shopping carts in the middle of an aisle!  |  IP: Logged Tim Reed Better Projection Pays Posts: 5246 From: Northampton, PA Registered: Sep 1999 posted 09-20-2009 09:09 PM                       quote: Bobby Henderson I'm mainly using the $10,000 barrier as a separator between the high end bikes OMG!! If I had to lay down 10-Gs for a bike, it'd be one of these:  |  IP: Logged Randy Stankey Film God Posts: 6539 From: Erie, Pennsylvania Registered: Jun 99 posted 09-20-2009 11:52 PM                     Nice! Funny thing. Every time a doctor saw me in the hospital they kept saying I had a motorcycle accident. I probably had to tell a half-dozen different people, "Bicycle! You know? BI-cycle!"  |  IP: Logged

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