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Author Topic: Windows 7 Paul J. Neuhaus Expert Film Handler Posts: 126 From: Iraq.. Again! Registered: Jun 2005 posted 11-11-2009 02:02 PM                     You know, I've often wondered about this subject: Programming for computers of the future. Do you make something that will run on the computers of today or tomorrow. How much growth in speed and resources can be assumed? Sounds like a hard job to me. And this doesn't just have to do with operating systems but games too. Of course thats why they get paid the big bucks.  |  IP: Logged Joe Redifer You need a beating today Posts: 12859 From: Denver, Colorado Registered: May 99 posted 11-11-2009 03:33 PM                        Chris, I heard it through the grapevine so I don't have a link for you.  |  IP: Logged Mark J. Marshall Film God Posts: 3188 From: New Castle, DE, USA Registered: Aug 2002 posted 11-11-2009 09:48 PM                    I've heard that too, Joe. From Microsoft sources in trade magazines. That's standard stuff. They're always developing two versions beyond what they have. One is in active development, one is on the drawing board / proof-of-concept stage. At least that WAS the case, and I have no reason to believe it's not the case now. It makes perfect sense to me that that's the case.  |  IP: Logged Mike Heenan Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1896 From: Scottsdale, AZ, USA Registered: Mar 2000 posted 12-06-2009 05:27 PM                     I bought a Netbook on Black Friday with Windows 7 Starter edition installed, and it's great so far, runs fine on 1gb memory. However... as others have mentioned, I'm shocked at the amount of bloatware. It has a 250 gb hard drive, of which 207 of 220gb remains available. I know that when you do the math, the advertised GB doesn't exactly match the real world GB amount. Does anyone know how many GB the Windows 7 Starter edition should take up without the bloatware? The netbook didn't come with a disc, so I guess I have to output a disc image and burn it on another computer.  |  IP: Logged Joe Redifer You need a beating today Posts: 12859 From: Denver, Colorado Registered: May 99 posted 12-06-2009 06:15 PM                        I don't know answer to your question, but that really isn't bad, especially after you take into consideration the manufacturer's definition of gigabyte versus the real word gigabyte.  |  IP: Logged Andy Bajew Expert Film Handler Posts: 136 From: Bellaire, Texas Registered: Jun 2009 posted 12-06-2009 06:21 PM                     The minimum amount of HDD space Windows 7 requires is 15GB. Windows 7 Starter will actually require a little bit more for the Netbooks depending on the brand you bought. Netbooks are designed to have a dual start up where you boot to a general screen where you can use the most basic of programs and then boot straight into Windows when you choose for a quicker load time(sort of a Asus mimic). Obviously if you have a brand where it doesn't do that style start up then you require less HDD space  |  IP: Logged Rick Raskin Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1100 From: Manassas Virginia Registered: Jan 2003 posted 12-07-2009 06:43 AM                     When I started this thread my friend was dealing with a sucky Vista laptop. He has since upgraded to W7 and all of his problems seem to have disappeared. He is now out there telling everyone with similar Vista issues to bite the bullet and upgrade. As far as we can tell, the networking question I originally posed is not an issue.  |  IP: Logged Joe Redifer You need a beating today Posts: 12859 From: Denver, Colorado Registered: May 99 posted 12-07-2009 02:19 PM                        My Windows 7 Ultimate installation uses about 20 GB, but I have a couple of small programs installed like Firefox as well as all of the Windows 7 updates that evidently happen every week.  |  IP: Logged Jeremy Fuentes Mmmm, Dr. Pepper! Posts: 1168 From: Corpus Christi, TX United States Registered: Jan 2004 posted 12-07-2009 06:14 PM                     Windows 7 was my idea.  |  IP: Logged Paul J. Neuhaus Expert Film Handler Posts: 126 From: Iraq.. Again! Registered: Jun 2005 posted 12-08-2009 10:06 PM                     I want to retract my earlier statement about libraries. I have started using them and they are really quite cool. You can include folders on multiple devices to be included on them. For instance my external hard drive has videos on it. I have included that folder in my videos library and now when it is plugged in they show up in one place with all my other videos. This is just one example of how to use them but the neat thing is when that device or network location is not available.. ie unplugged the media does not show up. So you don't have to worry about clicking on something that wont do anything. You can also set a default save area so that if you drag something to a library it saves to a default folder. I didn't think it was a good feature until I really tried it and it is now quite fricken convenient!!  |  IP: Logged Sean Weitzel Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 619 From: Vacaville, CA (1790 miles west of Rockwall) Registered: Dec 1999 posted 12-09-2009 11:44 AM                     I've been employed by (large japanese storage company) for 9 years and been in charge of supporting 3000 laptops for our users. We skipped over Vista entirely and are going to start a pilot testing program this coming spring for Windows 7. (There are over 40 different applications used throughout the company some of which are custom and built years and years ago so testing a new OS and certifying that all the apps will run takes a LONG time.) Yesterday was my first full day having migrated myself over to Windows 7 on a 3 year old Dell D620 with a 2.3ghz core 2 duo processor, nvidia NVS110 graphics chip and 3gb of ram. I have to say I am surprised and pleased with the performance and have yet to come across any application that wouldn't run. Drivers were no problem. I only had to visit dell's support site and pull down a vista graphics driver which installed easily. I like some of the new features such as the external device file organization as stated above and also how data files in the user profile are organized. Then I put the theme into 'windows classic' and it is even more responsive! It feels like a fast XP with UI tweaks now. I can't comment on how an in place upgrade would go as I did a clean installation.  |  IP: Logged Joe Redifer You need a beating today Posts: 12859 From: Denver, Colorado Registered: May 99 posted 12-09-2009 04:28 PM                        The only thing I don't like about the Classic mode is the GIANT grey bar on the bottom of the screen which is thicker than it was in any previous Windows incarnation... and uglier. I refuse to use auto hide" type schemes because that is just annoying.  |  IP: Logged Frank Angel Film God Posts: 5305 From: Brooklyn NY USA Registered: Dec 1999 posted 12-10-2009 08:44 AM                        quote: -next Homegroup: This is WIN 7's answer to workgroups. It only works with win 7 pc's. i.e. all members must have win 7 Wait -- you are saying that if have a bunch of my Users on worktstations with XP and we get a few new computers with Win 7, the XP machines with WORKGROUP won't communicate with the Win7s with HOMEGROUP? So I will have to get all of them on Win7 at the same time? Really?  |  IP: Logged Paul J. Neuhaus Expert Film Handler Posts: 126 From: Iraq.. Again! Registered: Jun 2005 posted 12-10-2009 10:14 PM                     Worry not Frank. Workgroups are still available. You will still be able to share your files from XP to 7 and vice versa. Homegroup is a new feature in addition to workgroup which only Windows 7 PC's or XBox can share media. I can't fully comprehend it's purpose though. I only have 1 laptop running 7 so I tried the Homegroup thing out with a friend who was also running 7 on his laptop. The result: it looked like a Workgroup to me! Don't get it. I do know one thing that is helpful is the ability to join a homegroup without rebooting!! Never understood that!! Maybe somebody here that has used Homegroup extensively can answer this: WHAT'S THE POINT?  |  IP: Logged Sean Weitzel Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 619 From: Vacaville, CA (1790 miles west of Rockwall) Registered: Dec 1999 posted 12-10-2009 10:56 PM                     quote: Joe Redifer The only thing I don't like about the Classic mode is the GIANT grey bar on the bottom of the screen which is thicker than it was in any previous Windows incarnation... Joe try right clicking the taskbar and choosing properties. Tick the 'use small icons' box. I think that might be what you're after. Also did you figure out how to restore the quick launch area?  |  IP: Logged

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