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Author Topic: Windows 7 Joe Redifer You need a beating today Posts: 12859 From: Denver, Colorado Registered: May 99 posted 12-11-2009 02:08 AM                        What is "quick launch area"? I have no idea what this means. The way I have Windows 7 set up, it works like the Dock in the Apple OS. The apps live in the bottom grey bar. One click and they launch. I do not have the old Windows way of where every single window, page or program is a giant tab across the bottom. I have always hated that about Windows. I also have always hated the useless things in the bottom right corner of the old Windows OSes. They appear, and then they hide only to leave two or three of them exposed. Always been very useless. Windows 7 is far less useless than any previous Windows. Finally some thought went into the design. It really is a first for Microsoft as coming up with new or even good ideas is not one of their strengths. I did apply a registry hack so that my submenus open immediately when highlighted.  |  IP: Logged Paul J. Neuhaus Expert Film Handler Posts: 126 From: Iraq.. Again! Registered: Jun 2005 posted 12-12-2009 12:21 PM                     Joe, "quick launch" is an XP term. It was the little icons that you could turn on as a toolbar in the bottom left of the screen next to the start menu. i.e., media player, outlook...etc. Windows 7 uses the same area but the new terminology is "pinning" a program to the task bar. And left clicking and pulling up brings up it's "jump list". Woo Hoo Post 100!!  |  IP: Logged Brad Miller Administrator Posts: 17775 From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall) Registered: May 99 posted 12-12-2009 01:00 PM                     The quick launch rules. I use it for email and Firefox. I have always had a deep hatred for the dock, or perhaps I should call it the iDock. I don't want to see everything at once. I only want to see what programs are open. That's just me though. At least W7 lets people choose. All of the icons in the lower right corner of XP does suck though. Depending on how you install the programs and how you edit the config will make most of the useless ones go away though, so it doesn't bother me much.  |  IP: Logged Joe Redifer You need a beating today Posts: 12859 From: Denver, Colorado Registered: May 99 posted 12-12-2009 05:28 PM                        Sounds like "pinning" is the same thing as the Quick Launch. I like the Dock because all of my commonly used apps are there, I don't have to hunt for them when I need them, and it is marvelous for drag and drop which is how I prefer to open certain types of files that have not been associated with a program yet (or I want to open it in a different program than it is associated with which I often must to with video files and PCM sound files to do different things in different apps). I don't know if Windows 7 allows that or not, I have yet to try. It is easy to tell what is running and what is not. I don't use the Dock to switch between apps, I use Command+tab. I think the same thing works in Windows but it might be Alt+tab or Control+tab.  |  IP: Logged Brad Miller Administrator Posts: 17775 From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall) Registered: May 99 posted 12-12-2009 09:21 PM                     I do something really special with my commonly used programs. I make little icons for each one of them that open the program and place them on the desktop.  |  IP: Logged Joe Redifer You need a beating today Posts: 12859 From: Denver, Colorado Registered: May 99 posted 12-12-2009 10:47 PM                        That's where my saved files go. Anyway it is harder to launch applications when you have other programs blocking them. For example, I can drag many images from Firefox directly to an application of my choice in the Dock, if need be.  |  IP: Logged Bobby Henderson "Ask me about Trajan." Posts: 10973 From: Lawton, OK, USA Registered: Apr 2001 posted 12-13-2009 12:13 AM                     You save all your files on the desktop? I could not do that, but it might work for others. I make too many changes to too many files on a frequent basis to keep a bunch of things in the desktop folder. I have tens of thousands of art files stored on external hard discs (as well as on optical discs). Long ago I started using a file naming system and system of folders updated on a quarterly basis. Each quarter's worth of files gets moved into another quarterly volume. The up front file organization makes it easy to find specific files regardless of how old the version of Windows may be or how long ago the file may have been created. I think most computer users are either too lazy or just don't know how to use computers well enough to properly organize their files and folders. A fancy dock on the task bar and other "wizard" like tools will not help these people either. Their computers are still going to be a disorganized mess.  |  IP: Logged Joe Redifer You need a beating today Posts: 12859 From: Denver, Colorado Registered: May 99 posted 12-13-2009 01:37 AM                        I don't permanently keep them on the desktop, just whatever I am currently working on/dealing with. If I grab pictures from the web, I drag them from my browser to the desktop and deal with them later. Sound and art files used in video editing live on the desktop because I may need to use them in another application and I don't feel like going through a hierarchy of menus just to open it it in any given app. Just drag to the app in the Dock and that's done. Once the project is done, everything gets nestled into its own folder elsewhere. I used to hate the Dock when OSX first came about. Now I don't see how I ever lived without it.  |  IP: Logged Bobby Henderson "Ask me about Trajan." Posts: 10973 From: Lawton, OK, USA Registered: Apr 2001 posted 12-13-2009 02:51 AM                     I'll probably get accustomed to using the Windows 7 "dock" or whatever it is they call it when I get a new notebook computer a few months from now. I already get similar functionality on my work computer by way of having a couple monitors and shortcuts to my commonly used applications placed on the desktop of my primary computer monitor. I can drag files from Windows Explorer on monitor #2 and drop them on the application shortcut and they open just fine. I don't often do that, but sometimes I'll get an art file via e-mail that was saved from a Mac and the "dot-three" suffix isn't there. Is it an EPS file? A JPEG? An Illustrator "AI" file? I hope there's no Mac-based version of MS Publisher. Ugh. Anyway, I drag and drop that unassociated file onto the Illustrator shortcut and more often that not it opens just fine. Same goes for Freehand, but who uses Macromedia Freehand anymore? Will Windows 7 allow you do drag items from the recently viewed documents menu onto the application dock or application short cuts on the desktop? XP doesn't allow that.  |  IP: Logged Joe Redifer You need a beating today Posts: 12859 From: Denver, Colorado Registered: May 99 posted 12-13-2009 05:29 AM                        I will have to boot up into Windows 7 to test that. Everyone I know who uses a Mac still uses the file suffix in the filename. There is an option to hide that on the Mac, but I like to see them. I don't know what Publisher is. As for Windows Explorer, it sucks, you really should use Firefox.  |  IP: Logged Bobby Henderson "Ask me about Trajan." Posts: 10973 From: Lawton, OK, USA Registered: Apr 2001 posted 12-13-2009 12:06 PM                     I use Firefox for web browsing, but have been using Google Chrome more and more lately. Windows Explorer is Windows' local hard disc file management tool. Internet Explorer is Microsoft's suck-ass web browser. Publisher is Microsoft's suck ass graphic design tool that doesn't work well with professional graphics programs.  |  IP: Logged Joe Redifer You need a beating today Posts: 12859 From: Denver, Colorado Registered: May 99 posted 12-13-2009 04:41 PM                        So let me get this straight... the Desktop and the folders associated with it that you navigate through is called Windows Explorer? That is perhaps the most retarded (and redundant) thing I've ever heard. I might allow that if it was simply called "Explorer", but that name is too closely associated with the shitty web browser to be acceptable. Google Chrome sucks ass. It has nothing over Firefox.  |  IP: Logged Bobby Henderson "Ask me about Trajan." Posts: 10973 From: Lawton, OK, USA Registered: Apr 2001 posted 12-13-2009 05:21 PM                     Actually Windows Explorer has been around much longer than Internet Explorer. I'm not sure if it was in the first version of Windows, but it's definitely been there since Windows 3.0. I'm used to the old disc/folder/file tree metaphor in Windows Explorer. I can manage files in Explorer far faster than I can by clicking through a bunch of dopey separate folder windows. Explorer is not perfect, but it's pretty straight forward. I recall a number of competing file management pieces of software marketed to compete against Windows Explorer back in the 1990s, but I don't know if anything like that is available anymore. In old versions of Windows, the Windows Explorer application was easy to find. With each new version Microsoft has increasingly buried it in application flyouts farther away from the Start button. In WinXP you have to click Start>Programs>Accessories to get the flyout containing Explorer. But you can right click on the Start button and select "Explore" to bring up Windows Explorer. But it expands all that My Documents folder bullcrap when you choose that short cut. I don't put anything into "My Documents." I save most items on external hard discs. I agree Microsoft does make it confusing to have two "explorer" named pieces of software. Maybe they should have named their web browser something else. Google Chrome could be better. I don't like how a lot of things are hidden. Firefox is much better designed. However, Firefox 3.5.5 has been running pretty slow for me, especially when it is launched. Even with the history and everything else deleted it still starts slow.  |  IP: Logged Paul J. Neuhaus Expert Film Handler Posts: 126 From: Iraq.. Again! Registered: Jun 2005 posted 12-14-2009 12:01 PM                     As I reall from the dos days of windows. That version of Explorer was called "file manager"  |  IP: Logged Joe Redifer You need a beating today Posts: 12859 From: Denver, Colorado Registered: May 99 posted 12-14-2009 01:03 PM                        quote: Bobby Henderson I'm not sure if it was in the first version of Windows Well, if the first version of Windows™ had "windows", then it had to have Explorer by default, no? I mean all that it really is are folders/windows that can be opened, moved around and files and sub-folders moved around between them. quote: Bobby Henderson In old versions of Windows, the Windows Explorer application was easy to find. Of course it is. It's ALWAYS there unless you are running DOS. If you are looking at the desktop, you are looking at Explorer by default since the desktop is a folder itself. Don't tell me that in earlier versions of Windows™ you'd actually have to hunt down and launch the actual program that allowed the windows.  |  IP: Logged

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