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Author Topic: Actress Brittany Murphy dead at 32 Monte L Fullmer Film God Posts: 8367 From: Nampa, Idaho, USA Registered: Nov 2004 posted 12-21-2009 10:44 PM                     Could there be a lot of "yellow journalism" with all what the media shoots at us?  |  IP: Logged Bobby Henderson "Ask me about Trajan." Posts: 10973 From: Lawton, OK, USA Registered: Apr 2001 posted 12-21-2009 10:57 PM                     Yeah, unfortunately the mass media is always on point to shoot us the most salacious, repugnant, sensational guess on what the real news may be and try as hard as they can to spin it as fact. Furthermore, they want to get that oddly spun story out first before the other news channel/organization tries to feed their strangely flavored version. Today's media is more about distributing myth than telling any sort of objective truth. And this judgment goes for EVERYONE, whether they're spouting bullshit spun for the left or the right. They're ALL full of shit. I remember a lot of the hell my father had to go through in studying photo-journalism at Crouse College in Syracuse University. The professors there were sadists about keeping the writer's opinion removed from the story as much as possible. Just the facts, asshole. That was the deal. Today's "journalists" would be getting an F grade. Or if they took Professor Demarest's course they would fall further from an F. They would get grades like "N" or "S" or "GG". A single misspelled word was called "an error in fact" and worthy of an automatic "F" score; any other errors following would drop further letter grades. One bad paper could ruin you for the semester. My father got a "B" in that guy's course and it pissed him off but good because he earned "A" grades in everything else. At any rate, I'm surprised the media is taking the "she died of natural causes" note. I figured any hint of drug abuse would be amplified to caricature proportions in the reporting. Still, this story has not run its course. So we'll see how sensational the media can be on this one.  |  IP: Logged Chris Slycord Film God Posts: 2986 From: 청주시, 경북도, South Korea Registered: Mar 2007 posted 12-22-2009 12:38 AM                     quote: Mike Blakesley Sure, but is it the coroner who said Natural Causes in this case? Assistant Chief Coroner. His exact words were that the death "appears to be natural."  |  IP: Logged Tim Reed Better Projection Pays Posts: 5246 From: Northampton, PA Registered: Sep 1999 posted 12-22-2009 02:01 AM                       "Natural causes" has always had an odd connotation for me (as I twist the meanings of words around in my mind). If I drive a motorcycle 100 miles an hour and clip the back of a dump truck, I will go flying into a hundred bloody pieces and, naturally, die. I didn't defy the laws of physics. As the natural world around us dictates, it was simple cause and effect. Natural.  |  IP: Logged Richard Hamilton Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1341 From: Evansville, Indiana Registered: Jan 2000 posted 12-22-2009 02:08 AM                     but Tim, if you did that, then we would just have to assume that you were under the influence  |  IP: Logged Chad Souder Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 962 From: Waterloo, IA, USA Registered: Feb 2000 posted 12-23-2009 08:39 PM                     quote: Richard Hamilton Not sure why, but when a celeberity dies, it's a mad rush for people on film-tech to see who can post it first. I could understand if they were friends or family or had worked together, not just because they were famous. I have noticed the same, and also would like to add some have adopted a VERY loose definition of the word celebrity. When an actor or actress dies, either literally or figuratively, they are quickly replaced by someone who fits the shoe. Fans proclaim sadness, but really it's just disappointment that the entertainer won't entertain them anymore and it's this unexplainable desire for people to want to have a piece of a news story. Like, "Hey I saw her in this movie so I knew who she was so you should feel sorry for me because I'm experiencing a loss." If the guy down the street that you didn't know develops a drug habit that kills him, well then he's a lousy junkie that died. But if some actor or actress like Brittany Murphy, Heath Ledger, River Phoenix, Bam Bam Bigelow or whoever else you care to reference becomes a junkie and dies, it's sad? Sorry, but I'm not buying it. quote: Bobby Henderson Yeah, unfortunately the mass media is always on point to shoot us the most salacious, repugnant, sensational guess on what the real news may be and try as hard as they can to spin it as fact. That's usually because the mass media knows what kind of lifestyles these people are living before they die and they're often right. Rarely is it a real shock to those that knew the deceased. The paparazzi make a living following celebs every day of their lives. They know what clubs they frequent, the company they keep, and what drugs they take. I don't believe it's a guess at all. Like you said, Bobby, there is a long list of Hollywood junkie deaths. Maybe Murphy just added to the list, maybe she didn't. I didn't know her and she wasn't a box office draw, so I couldn't care less. Tim has it right with the natural causes. There is always a cause of death. If it was indeed a cocaine overdose, Murphy didn't die from cocaine, she died because her heart stopped, restricting sufficient oxygen flow to the brain, causing death. Getting shocked or being hit hard in the chest can make your heart stop too. Different origins, same result.  |  IP: Logged Joe Redifer You need a beating today Posts: 12859 From: Denver, Colorado Registered: May 99 posted 12-23-2009 09:13 PM                        quote: Chad Souder Bam Bam Bigelow Who the fuck...?  |  IP: Logged Mark Lensenmayer Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1605 From: Upper Arlington, OH Registered: Sep 1999 posted 12-23-2009 09:27 PM                     Bam Bam Bigelow was a WWF wrestler from a few years ago.  |  IP: Logged Joe Redifer You need a beating today Posts: 12859 From: Denver, Colorado Registered: May 99 posted 12-23-2009 11:27 PM                        His death means nothing to me.  |  IP: Logged Tim Reed Better Projection Pays Posts: 5246 From: Northampton, PA Registered: Sep 1999 posted 12-24-2009 01:02 AM                       What gets me about "pro" wrestler write ups is they say stuff like: 'In the fall of 2003, Billy Ray defeated Joe Blough for the Mid-City International World Belt Title at Wrestle Mania 14, using his double-secret nut-slam hold from the rafters'... like they're real fights or something!  |  IP: Logged Christian Volpi Master Film Handler Posts: 349 From: Arlington, NE Registered: Apr 2004 posted 12-24-2009 08:12 AM                        As a licensed mortician, I have seen countless death certificates and have sat in on numerous autopsies. "Natural Causes" is usually listed when an autopsy is unable to determine the cause of death and foul play is immediatley ruled out. This is primarily seen in the elderly when the body simply shuts down due to age and deterioration. Most death certificates (each state has their own) has three lines to list causes of death. The top line is the final cause of death, in Ms. Murphy's case, it will most likely say "Cardian Arrest". The following lines then list conditions that ultimately led to that happening. For instance, Ms. Murphy's might include "Cardiac Arterial Thrombosis" on the second line and "Type ? Diabetes" on the third line. Not exactley sure where I was going with all of this, but there you go.  |  IP: Logged Tim Reed Better Projection Pays Posts: 5246 From: Northampton, PA Registered: Sep 1999 posted 12-24-2009 10:35 AM                       You have my esteem, Christian. I am always thankful that there are people around who can do that sort of work. I absolutely could not handle it emotionally. I would be crying all the time. Although, there IS great job security. Back when the theatre circuits there were making their big non-union pushes in the mid-80s, I knew a projectionist in Houston who went into mortuary science simply because it was a profession that could not be automated.  |  IP: Logged Paul Mayer Oh get out of it Melvin, before it pulls you under! Posts: 3836 From: Albuquerque, NM Registered: Feb 2000 posted 12-24-2009 12:55 PM                        One of the captains I flew with at Scenic was studying at the time to be a mortician. He saw it as a great fallback to the increasingly unstable and unrewarding future of being a professional pilot. As for Ms. Murphy, it doesn't really matter what caused her death. But it was way too soon. May she rest in peace.  |  IP: Logged Jason Black Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1723 From: Myrtle Beach, SC, USA Registered: Nov 2000 posted 12-27-2009 12:03 AM                        It's sad that she died at such a young age.. but it's just as sad that there appears to be so much 'chest thumping' in this thread. I think The Hippinator hit the nail on the head... You guys keep beating your chests... It doesn't change the fact that a life was lost, regardless of the cause!  |  IP: Logged

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