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Ian Parfrey
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 - posted 04-25-2010 05:14 PM      Profile for Ian Parfrey   Email Ian Parfrey   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Smoke makes people cough, yet some inhale it on purpose.

Sorry. Don't get it.

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Randy Stankey
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 - posted 04-25-2010 05:47 PM      Profile for Randy Stankey   Email Randy Stankey   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
quote: Chris Slycord
Could that be because the nicotine in tobacco causes increases the neurotransmitters relating to the brain's reward system? And could it be compounded by the fact that tobacco smoke has monoamine oxidase inhibitors, which means that the breakdown of those neurotransmitters is inhibited?
Neurochemical adaptation.

There are dozens and dozens of chemical processes inside the brain that are affected by smoking from the action of neurotransmitters to chemicals that mimic the action of morphine inside the brain. These chemicals actually alter the way a person thinks, feels and acts. As a person smokes (or take other drugs) his brain adapts to being in that altered state.

This goes over and above what people classically think of as addiction.

There is a physical addiction where the body adapts to being given a certain amount of the offending substance. This changes the heart rate, the way the organs and digestion operate and, when withdrawn, will cause PHYSICAL symptoms of discomfort and pain.

There is psychological addiction where people become used to using drugs as a crutch or escape mechanism. When they feel anxious or have other negative feelings they learn to turn to drugs to make them feel better. Upon withdrawal, the reality of life's problems begin to return, causing panic attacks and emotional problems.

Neurochemical adaptation (or neurochemical addiction, if you will) is a third, lesser-known facet of addiction that can take years to overcome. A person can overcome physical addiction in a period of weeks or months. Psychological addiction can be overcome with psychotherapy or group therapy like A.A, et. al. But neurochemical addiction can hang on for extended periods of time. It will actually alter the way a person thinks, feels and acts and he will not normally be conscious of his own behaviors. He will actually be drawn back to drug-taking behaviors as a form of "self-medication" to overcome his perceived sense of dysphoria born out of neurochemical drug withdrawal.

It is not unheard of for neurochemical addiction to take ten years or more to resolve.

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Joe Redifer
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 - posted 04-25-2010 06:41 PM      Profile for Joe Redifer   Author's Homepage   Email Joe Redifer   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Sounds like a great deal! Gimme some substances, its totally worth it!

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Randy Stankey
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 - posted 04-26-2010 08:34 AM      Profile for Randy Stankey   Email Randy Stankey   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Even coffee will do the same thing. Ever see a heavy coffee drinker in the morning before they have their first cup?

Personally, I quit drinking coffee over a year ago. Same reason. I just got sick and tired of being sick and tired without it. So I quit. Wasn't hard.

Now I drink, maybe a cup of coffee per month. Usually decaf.
Beer and cigarettes? Maybe 2 or 3 beers per month. I might smoke once or twice per year.

Until you quit and have been off "substances" for a long time you don't notice how they change you. After you have stopped for a while you realize just how unhappy you were unless you were smoking or drinking or doing whatever. It gives you a weird feeling to think just how much substances change your personality.

That's neurochemical adaptation at work.

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Sean McKinnon
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 - posted 04-26-2010 11:58 AM      Profile for Sean McKinnon   Author's Homepage   Email Sean McKinnon   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Actually randy for some substances of abuse which cause a physical dependance like opiates medication based treatment has a very very high success rate as long as the person stays on thier medication wether it be methadone or buprenorphine. Abstinance based treatment modalities (like A.A., counseling etc.) are pretty much useless to opiate addicts as thier body's physical dependance is not something they have control over.

There is a new thoery out that certain people are born with a deficency in thier brain chemistry where they do not produce enough of certain chemicals (endorphins, or something) which causes them to suffer from depression like symptoms, or to just feel "not right" or "not like everyone else" throughout thier lives. When these people are introduced to opiates which fill the brain receptors that are empty due to the lack of normal brain chemicals thier bodies instantly decide that it is what has been missing and become dependant on it. It is sort of the chicken or the egg is it the drug abuse that changes the brain or is the drug abuse a symptom of a faulty brain. New research is beginning to point to opiate abuse as a symptom of a brain disorder and not the cause. This would explain why a lot of people who never did a drug in thier life have tooth pulled or break a leg and get prescribed legal opiod pain killers and become almost instantly addicted where other can take them on and off for years for chronic pain and not become addicted.

The thing that amazes me is the stigma surrounding medication based treatment for opiate addiction. It has been studied and communities with methadone clinics tend to have lower crime rates as apposed to communities with a need that keep clinics out. The reason for this is simple when treated with medication an opiate dependant person will lead a normal productive life. No need to steal, cheat, or buy and sell street drugs. However without access to treatment these behaviors only get worse. People think that methadone treatment is just switching one drug for another or state sponsored drug dealing which could not be further from the truth. A patient on a stable methadone dose does not feel any intoxicating effects from the medication. Methadone clinics are also mostly run by private companies that hire doctors who specialize in addiction medicine to oversee each clinic. Every patient is examined by a doctor regularly and prescribed thier medication by a doctor. All medication is dispensed by licensed nurses. Even though there is an 80-90% success rate on abstinence there is still a lot of bad stigma around this.
I wonder how all of the people who swear that addiction can be cured by religion and morals will be able to ignore the day scientist prove that opiate abuse is a symptom of a brain disorder that people are born with.

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Dieter Depypere
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 - posted 05-07-2010 09:27 AM      Profile for Dieter Depypere   Email Dieter Depypere   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
As for me, I am a non-smoker, unless most of the guys and girls I used to work with at the movie theater.
But... I do drink a lot of coffee. No decaf, no milk and no sugar (Why? Because it is low cal and high octane [Big Grin] ).

Alcohol: Sometimes. Then, usually a pint of Guinness, or Belgian Trappist Ale called "Orval". But not much [Smile]

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Jonathan Smith
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 - posted 05-07-2010 09:46 AM      Profile for Jonathan Smith   Email Jonathan Smith   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Didn' t know you could get a real pint in Austria.

This is an industry with a lot of smokers, though not as bad as the restaurant industry or the bar industry [Wink]

Went back to my smoke-easy the other day, and they are back in action. Frankly, I am just a big fan of the defiance associated with this bar owner. I plan to be the same way with 35mm film, which is a slightly better cause.

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Dieter Depypere
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 - posted 05-07-2010 12:04 PM      Profile for Dieter Depypere   Email Dieter Depypere   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Jonathan --
Of course we can [Smile] The next Irish pub is 10 minutes down the street (walking of course).

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