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Randy Stankey
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From: Erie, Pennsylvania
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 - posted 05-26-2011 03:12 PM      Profile for Randy Stankey   Email Randy Stankey   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
The thing is that people who are NOT doing anything illegal can and HAVE BEEN raided by the government based on information gained from "alternate" sources.

People who use the computer a lot use more electricity and pay higher electric bills. Rightly so. But if the government targets you and raids your house because you use more than 95 KWh per month, suspecting you grow dope in your basement, that is wrong.

If you go on Facebook and say innocuous things, the government or anybody else can use that information against you regardless of whether you actually do anything wrong. Just saying something like, "Smoking marijuana is fun," can get you busted.

Worse, there are no apologies and they take little or no action to correct their behavior. They still use unreliable information to harass people just because they think a crime MIGHT HAVE been committed.

This doesn't even consider the fact that other people who are even more unscrupulous and even less accountable can do anything they want and are, for the most part, are above the law. (Or "below" the law.)

The idea of Facebook as a place for people to connect and share is all right but the way they collect data about users, the underhanded way they use it against users and the total lack of responsibility for security of that data is terrible.

The risks are not worth the rewards.

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Chad Souder
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 - posted 05-26-2011 07:32 PM      Profile for Chad Souder   Email Chad Souder   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Facebook gets careless people fired from their jobs.

This will help with some of the information sharing:

Account drop menu>Account settings>by Privacy click "manage"

Choose "custom" then under Apps and Websites, click "Edit your settings"

By Instant personilization, click "Edit Settings"

Ignore the stupid video attempt to convince you and uncheck the "Enable instant personalizaztion on partner websites" box.

This is a big way Facebook makes it's money.

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Joshua Waaland
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 - posted 05-27-2011 08:48 AM      Profile for Joshua Waaland   Email Joshua Waaland   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Thanks Chad. I just did what you said for the settings. Man! They do not want you changing that setting. A box also appears after the video and says that people have been spreading false rumors about that setting, and do you really want to change it. This tells me they obviously make money from this or sell your info and do not want you changing it. They also buried it deep within the settings so you cannot find it very easily. I may have clicked my way through eventually, but it would have taken a while. I have been going through all of the settings to check them now.

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Mike Heenan
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 - posted 05-30-2011 02:22 PM      Profile for Mike Heenan   Email Mike Heenan   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I remember when the paranoia about that first started... mine was unchecked by default, I don't know if that's the way it was for other people though.

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Michael McGovern
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 - posted 05-30-2011 09:43 PM      Profile for Michael McGovern     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
The reason this board has been slowing is that the face of the business has changing. If you work for one of the chains, and you primarily do projection, by the fall you'll have two choices, swap over to operations management, or file for unemployment. From what I hear, the studios are hoping to phase out 35MM entirely by next year, although I'll believe that one when I see it.

Business at the theater level is in a decline, while home viewing, particularly on the digital distribution front is booming. The studios are already planning for the day when they can avoid the theater as a distribution channel altogether. First it's a one month delay for an overpriced PPV release, next it's a two week delay. Before long Transformers 4 debuts on PPV and Netflix the same day as it's theatrical release, and then it's all over.

I made this comparison in a different thread, but I still say it's totally apt. When I was a kid we would play video games at the Arcade. Sure, we had video games at home, but if you wanted to play the newest, best games, with the best quality graphics, you had to go to the arcade to do it. It was big business too, games like Pac-Man, Galaga, Mortal Kombat, Street Fighter, etc made millions in coin-op revenues alone, easily as much as a blockbuster film. Then, maybe six months down the line, after a successful run in the arcade, you might be able to play the games on your Nintendo, but they would be of inferior quality, because the technology in the arcades couldn't be recreated at home at a reasonable price.

This is the way things were for years and years, but then things changed. Slowly the technology of your home video games improved to the point where they met and eventually exceeded that of the games in the Arcade. People stopped going to the arcades, because they were rendered mostly irrelevant. Soon after, the video game producers skipped the arcade as a distribution channel altogether, and shortly after that Arcades as we knew them were extinct, or at least almost completely marginalized.

The arcades of today only exist to serve a very specific market like families and children, and they mostly feature rigged carnival games, and not video games. True arcades were driven out of business not because of any bad business decisions by the operators, but because the content providers abandoned them, and found greater profits by selling direct to the consumer. The few retro arcades left are operated by people who have a passion for that business, and not by people looking to make a profit, because there aren't any profits to be made.

We in the movie business are going to become the arcades of tomorrow. We are at the mercy of the movie studios, and if they decide that it's time to cannibalize the theater business, then there's not much that Regal, or AMC, or NATO is going to be able to do to stop them.

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Mike Blakesley
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 - posted 05-30-2011 09:54 PM      Profile for Mike Blakesley   Author's Homepage   Email Mike Blakesley   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
quote: Michael McGovern
Business at the theater level is in a decline, while home viewing, particularly on the digital distribution front is booming. The studios are already planning for the day when they can avoid the theater as a distribution channel altogether. First it's a one month delay for an overpriced PPV release, next it's a two week delay. Before long Transformers 4 debuts on PPV and Netflix the same day as it's theatrical release, and then it's all over.
Home viewing might be booming, but that doesn't put money in the studios' pockets. Sales does that, and sales are in the toilet. Digital sales (downloads and streams) are nowhere near where DVD used to be, and they're not growing at the rate DVD is falling. The whole reason they are doing this PVOD thing is to boost the sales they've lost by letting people rent movies from glorified pop machines.

Sad to say, there's no way that's going to work. They're going to have to tweak the mixture further. The really sad thing is, they COULD make more money by making the video window much longer. More people would go to the movies and they'd make more money in film rent, then they could cash in again when the video comes out. But since the whole industry is apparently being run by 23-year-olds, it'll probably go the other way.

Your comparison to arcades lacks one huge parallel to the movie biz: The arcades never appealed to anybody except teenagers. Of course most movies are marketed to the 15-24 age group, but there is still a huge chunk of the business much older or younger than that. Arcades, once you were out of high school you stopped going there -- I know, I grew up in the arcade era -- but movies can become a lifelong habit. I have people at my theatre tonight that have been coming here for over 60 years. (True story! And they're wearing 3-D glasses!)

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Michael McGovern
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 - posted 05-30-2011 10:10 PM      Profile for Michael McGovern     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Well the biggest problem that studios are facing in regards to home sales is that Redbox came along and diluted the value of the home viewing experience, and they're doing everything in their power to get away from that. People became programmed to accept the idea that it shouldn't cost any more than 99 cents a day to watch a movie, and Netflix with their endless supply of content isn't helping either.

The current distribution model is going to require a lot more tweaking, and you're going to have to change consumers perceptions on what your content is worth, but they will figure it out eventually. Joe consumer can now go out and buy his 1080p television set with his blu ray player and surround sound speakers, and will surpass the quality of your average Megaplex with their poorly lit picture, broken speakers, and varying sound quality.

A combination of high prices, both at the box office and concession stand, and a movie going public that is getting increasingly more ignorant of how to behave in a movie theatre setting, along with shortening release windows are going to kill our business. People would much rather go out, spend the money on a quality meal, then go back home and watch a movie on their home theater setup, and it's not only the economy that's to blame, it's a permanent shift in consumer behavior.

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Mike Blakesley
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 - posted 05-30-2011 11:00 PM      Profile for Mike Blakesley   Author's Homepage   Email Mike Blakesley   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
quote: Michael McGovern
the quality of your average Megaplex with their poorly lit picture, broken speakers, and varying sound quality.
I really doubt the "average megaplex" has all those features. If they do, the industry is in a lot more trouble than I think it is.

I do believe the majority of moviegoers are satisified with their experiences. If they weren't, nobody would be in business very long.

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Bobby Henderson
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 - posted 05-30-2011 11:12 PM      Profile for Bobby Henderson   Email Bobby Henderson   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
quote: Michael McGovern
Business at the theater level is in a decline, while home viewing, particularly on the digital distribution front is booming.
Actually, that is not true. Both the theatrical market and home video market are down in business significantly. There is some growth in the movie streaming business and Blu-ray has been gaining an ever greater share of disc-based movie sales. However those gains are more than offset by losses in declining DVD sales and what seems like an utter collapse in the video rental industry.

The economy deserves some blame for this. I think a bigger part of the blame goes toward the lackluster quality of the movies themselves. Lately Hollywood has been releasing a product that is on average not worth buying. Not in terms of theater tickets, rentals or disc purchases. There's a lot of stuff I won't stomach watching for free. My time is worth something and I don't feel like wasting it on shitty movies.

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Louis Bornwasser
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 - posted 05-31-2011 06:30 AM      Profile for Louis Bornwasser   Author's Homepage   Email Louis Bornwasser   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I LOVE this discussion. Bobby: you are dead on!

I am a fan who works in the industry. Even I can't find anything that is fresh or original. Repurposed 70's TV shows don't get it except occasionally. Perhaps this is why older movie goers shift to foreign films?

btw: some thread drift, huh? Louis

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Bobby Henderson
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 - posted 05-31-2011 03:42 PM      Profile for Bobby Henderson   Email Bobby Henderson   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Drift? I think it's getting back on topic. If Hollywood is making really good movies and theaters are doing really well the traffic here is going to increase.

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Christian Volpi
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 - posted 06-03-2011 11:31 AM      Profile for Christian Volpi   Author's Homepage   Email Christian Volpi   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I haven't had much to post after getting out of the theater biz, but I try to read the forums from time to time. Between 2 jobs and being on call 2 nights a week and every other weekend, my internet time is almost nonexistent.

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Cassandra Palko
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 - posted 06-05-2011 02:37 AM      Profile for Cassandra Palko   Author's Homepage   Email Cassandra Palko   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I have been getting a lot of info from reddit

http://www.reddit.com/r/movies/new/

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