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Topic: Movie theatre sued over high snack prices
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Tony Bandiera Jr
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From: Moreland Idaho
Registered: Apr 2004
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posted 03-08-2012 02:28 PM
quote: Joe Redifer
Your phrasing seems dedicated to the purchaser of the entry fee:
quote: Mike Blakesley
Disney isn't outrageous at all. It costs about $80 to get in, true. But you can stay all day and ride as much as you can for that price, plus see all the street entertainment and "soak up the atmosphere." They spend hundreds of millions of dollars on each new attraction and they are constantly updating and renewing their facilities. Even the shortest day at a Disney park is 8 hours, and can run up to 12 or 16 hours if you hit it right....that's $5 to $10 per hour of entertainment
Unless you stay the hours you indicated, it costs CRAZY more than $10 per hour of entertainment. And at $80 per person it gets insane if you go as a family. "Hey, let's go spend $1,000 at DisneyLand!" You'd have to be criminally insane to do that.
LOL Joe I think Mike posted that because he's pissed off at me over the Oscar's thread. ![[Big Grin]](biggrin.gif)
Seriously though, Mike, the point is like Joe pointed out that a family will EASILY spend over a grand for that day of entertainment, especially when you add in FOOD and DRINKS, which are also expensive at Disney (but in most cases the food IS good to be honest.)
So your $5-$10 per hour becomes closer to $80-$100 per hour. ![[Eek!]](eek.gif)
BUT, it is all about perceived value, right? So in that light, even the money a family spends for a day at Disney might not be all that bad. And with the attendance they have, I don't think there are that many criminally insane folks out there.....or if they are all insane we are in big trouble. ![[Wink]](wink.gif)
Last time I was at Disneyland the admission was only $40 and I felt it was a good value. I am hard pressed to justify spending the current fee to go there though.
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Edward Havens
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posted 03-08-2012 03:01 PM
As a child living in Los Angeles in the 1970s, we used to go to Disneyland at least once a month. $5.95 for adults and $4.95 for kids got you in to the park, plus 1 A ticket, 2 B tickets, 3 C tickets, 4 D tickets and 5 E tickets. Parking was a couple bucks. And if you didn't use some of your tickets this time, you could bring them with you the next time and use them then. But then they switched to a single entry ticket thirty years ago. Now, Disneyland is $80 for adults and $74 for kids, and parking is $15. I've been there twice in the past fifteen years, and I don't plan on going back for a very long time, because that's just too damn expensive.
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Jim Henk
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posted 03-09-2012 01:08 AM
quote: Justin Hamaker
Jim: The one thing I get annoyed with is when people refer to the most expensive options and then dismiss a movie as too expensive.
Here's what I mean using my theatre's prices:
4 x 2D matinee = $28.00
Justin,
First, prices in Lakeport for a regular 2D movie are certainly less than in an area like here in San Diego. Prices here for two adults and two kids goes for around $39.00. Just took a sampling of four typical chain theatres, and averaged out the results to get that number.
But more importantly, my point was that with snack prices so high, (justifiably, I'll surely grant) and ticket prices so high, is it any wonder that attendance is low? I mean, wouldn't families drool over waiting for the DVD/Blu-Ray/NetFlix/Streaming, pop some Orville Reddinbacher at home, and save a lot?
In this economy, people are saving on everything. Why wouldn't they do the same here? That's what I was referring to when I mentioned the business model problem.
High prices needed? Undoubtably. Workable? That seems to be more like the question.
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Edward Havens
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posted 03-09-2012 03:26 AM
Screw California Adventure. I'm talkin' 'bout DISNEYLAND. A bunch of refurbishments (Star Tours, Pirates and the Castle being the most recent) and re-opening Captain EO in the past couple years, sure, but hasn't had a truly new ride since Buzz Lightyear's Astro Blasters in 2005. Before that? Indiana Jones in 1995.
14m visitors a year to Disneyland (not counting California Adventure), at roughly $70 per ticket, taking in to account discounted and multi-day and/or multi-park passes, and you're talking $980,000,000 per year solely on admissions, on land that was purchased dirt cheap sixty plus years ago, housing buildings that mostly date back thirty plus years, with upgrades done every twenty years or so.
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Mike Frese
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posted 03-09-2012 08:20 AM
quote: Mandy Crisbe
Indeed, this is a serious problem especially to avid movie goers. There are few things on earth that individuals whine about more than movie theater concession costs. There is little one can do about them, though, because without high concession costs, theaters wouldn’t be able to keep their doors open. Article Source: Good reason exists for movie theater concession prices
This is a great example of what I am talking about. A great reason for high concession prices is the lie that has been allowed to perpetuate. From the above article:
Hollywood still takes a portion once tickets are sold. According to the Wall Street Journal, 90 percent of ticket revenue from blockbuster movies goes straight to the studio on opening weekends and up to several weeks after release.
That is just outright false. The article shows horrible journalism to:
Tickets are the bigger portion of the bottom line. According to the Boston Globe, Regal Cinemas reported ticket revenues of $1.7 billion and concession revenues of $697 million, after spending $907 million for film rental and advertising and $105 million for concessions in 2007. In other words, the chain’s profits were roughly a 60-40 split, but the costs of getting films to show was eight times that of concessions, so concessions are actually more profitable.
That paragraph obviously contradicts the earlier.
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Mike Blakesley
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From: Forsyth, Montana
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posted 03-09-2012 10:00 AM
quote: Edward Havens
14m visitors a year to Disneyland (not counting California Adventure), at roughly $70 per ticket, taking in to account discounted and multi-day and/or multi-park passes, and you're talking $980,000,000 per year solely on admissions, on land that was purchased dirt cheap sixty plus years ago, housing buildings that mostly date back thirty plus years, with upgrades done every twenty years or so.
You need to think about what Disney does in terms of refurbishments, enhancements, etc. It's a lot more than every 20 years. They are ALWAYS rebuilding or refurbishing or adding something. (If you don't believe that, check out miceage.com and look at the weekly updates.)
And also remember that there are a FEW other expenses involved in running that place, such as...payroll, taxes, insurance, lawyers, security, advertising, utilities, repairs (not counting refurbs), etc. What you said is no different than those people who think theaters are RAKING IN huge profits on concessions without any consideration of all the other operating costs.
I'm not trying to be a big Disney defender here....I've had my gripes with them too, as any regular reader of this board might know. But if they were to suddenly drop their price to what a lot of complainers consider "reasonable," they'd be out of business pretty quickly. Just like movie theaters would..
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