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Author Topic: Microsoft XL help Dominic Espinosa Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1172 From: California, U.S.A. Registered: Jan 2004 posted 03-14-2012 06:39 PM                     MAC user! Evil Mac user! <-- (PC Guy)  |  IP: Logged Joe Redifer You need a beating today Posts: 12859 From: Denver, Colorado Registered: May 99 posted 03-14-2012 06:58 PM                        It takes us twice as many buttons to do the same thing!  |  IP: Logged Bobby Henderson "Ask me about Trajan." Posts: 10973 From: Lawton, OK, USA Registered: Apr 2001 posted 03-14-2012 10:11 PM                     Ugh, I cannot stand Microsoft applications. I mess around with Excel only when I have to do so. Microsoft strives at making their office applications more complicated and user un-friendly than they need to be. And they seem to have little if any idea (or desire) to make their software friendly with other software, like graphics programs. I'll get customer provided "art" files all time in Word or Powerpoint. Sometimes I'll get one of the Publisher .pub files. Fun. That crap rarely, if ever, transports over into applications like Adobe Illustrator or CorelDRAW successfully at all. Even PDF doesn't solve all the problems. Oh well. I try to tell wannabe graphic designers to try Inkscape. It's free. And the SVG files it generates usually come into Illustrator just fine.  |  IP: Logged Dominic Espinosa Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1172 From: California, U.S.A. Registered: Jan 2004 posted 03-14-2012 11:59 PM                     quote: It takes us twice as many buttons to do the same thing! Sure but you have fewer virii and increased stability. I'd use Linux for everything but I've got some apps that are only available on windows that I use far too religiously.  |  IP: Logged Joe Redifer You need a beating today Posts: 12859 From: Denver, Colorado Registered: May 99 posted 03-19-2012 06:08 PM                        OK Word question. In Word 2011, I can no longer press the DOWN arrow to get to the end of the text like I could in previous, more primitive editions of Word. How do I enable this in the fancy 2011 edition?  |  IP: Logged Sean Weitzel Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 619 From: Vacaville, CA (1790 miles west of Rockwall) Registered: Dec 1999 posted 03-19-2012 07:51 PM                     Command - Home for the top of the document. Command - End for the bottom. But if you have a macbook pro or other mac that lacks home and end keys, the keys are emulated by Fn-Left arrow or Fn-Right arrow. Therefore, Command - Fn - Right will take you to the end of the document. references: http://mac2.microsoft.com/help/office/12/en-us/word/item/f7701a9f-35bc-49c5-a5b5-8c24b085a166 http://pcmcourseware.com/blog/2009/02/23/home-and-end-keys-on-the-macbook-pro/ Bonus LMGTFY: http://bit.ly/GzKhkP  |  IP: Logged Joe Redifer You need a beating today Posts: 12859 From: Denver, Colorado Registered: May 99 posted 03-19-2012 08:54 PM                        Bah! Why can't MS just make the arrow keys go down line by line and then to the end of the last sentence like they do for every other application that uses text? Like this post I'm typing. I can totally do it. MS is a shitty company that makes shitty things because they have shitty designers. How did they "win"?  |  IP: Logged Randy Stankey Film God Posts: 6539 From: Erie, Pennsylvania Registered: Jun 99 posted 03-20-2012 08:26 AM                     I think the problem is because of the way different operating systems were designed from the beginning. When Apple acquired the Xerox Star system, they spent a lot of time and money researching the way people interact with computers and how they actually use them. For instance, the trash can is at the bottom, left of the computer screen and the menus are arranged from left to right across the top of the screen. Think about it for a second and compare the arrangement of the computer desktop to a real desk in your office. Most right handed people put their real trash can on the right side of their desks. The motion of tossing a piece of paper into a real trash can is similar to the motion of dragging a file on your screen to the virtual trash can on your computer. Many right handed people would put their Rolodex file or their notebook at the top, left corner of their desk. Thus, the reason why the "File" menu is located at the top, left of the screen. When Microsoft came along and copied Apple, they simply rearranged things without consideration of how people actually worked on computers. They took all of the discrete features of the existing system and created a mash up. The name "Windows" is indicative of that behavior. The underlying annoyance that many people have with computers is directly caused by Microsoft's lack of attention to basic details of design. Because Microsoft was able to place more of their systems in offices and businesses, they actually "trained" people to believe that the "wrong" way is the "right way. However, the underlying inconsistencies and the annoyances that they cause still remain as undercurrents to virtually all operating systems that came after the original Windows operating systems. I'm not saying that one operating system is "better" or that one is "worse." I'm just saying that Joe's problems and the annoyances he feels because of them are directly caused by the inconsistencies between the way he naturally interacts with the objects in his work environment and the computers he uses. The best example of a bad user interface is the average DVD player that most people have in their houses. Most people want to just put in a disk and press "play" but 99% of all DVD players don't work that way. The keys on the remote control are not located in rational places. The order of the buttons you have to press is virtually random, jumping around in different situations and from model to model of different players. Sony is another good example of good and bad interface design. The interface on the older Trinitron televisions used to be one of the best. You could operate the controls on the remote without even looking. You picked up the remote and clicked the channel buttons or changed the volume without even looking. The remotes were designed so you could operate every button, virtually by feel. Now, on the almost all Sony remotes, the buttons seem to be in the most convenient locations for the engineers to place them, not in the most convenient locations for the users. This is probably the most pervasive problem in modern technological society: The lack of attention to detail and the way that people actually interact and use technology. It's not getting any better. In the last ten years, I think it's gotten much worse.  |  IP: Logged Manny Knowles "What are these things and WHY are they BLUE???" Posts: 4247 From: Bloomington, IN, USA Registered: Feb 2002 posted 03-20-2012 10:50 AM                     quote: Randy Stankey the trash can is at the bottom, left of the computer screen On every Mac I've owned -- and I've owned a lot of them -- the trash can was/is on the bottom-right.  |  IP: Logged Randy Stankey Film God Posts: 6539 From: Erie, Pennsylvania Registered: Jun 99 posted 03-20-2012 11:04 AM                     That's what they call dyxlesia... Or is it dyslexia? I don't know for sure. I keep getting things bass ackwards.  |  IP: Logged Mike Blakesley Film God Posts: 12767 From: Forsyth, Montana Registered: Jun 99 posted 03-20-2012 02:40 PM                        I'm surprised MS is still using that tired old Windows name. Windows can break; they can get dirty; they can be covered by curtains. Next upgrade, they should change the name to Doorways. Just think of the marketing possibilities. Pathways to opportunity. "The doorway is now open." I'm amazed their marketing geeks haven't done something like this yet.  |  IP: Logged Frank Cox Film God Posts: 2234 From: Melville Saskatchewan Canada Registered: Apr 2011 posted 03-20-2012 02:44 PM                        In a world without walls and fences, who needs Windows and Gates?  |  IP: Logged Joe Redifer You need a beating today Posts: 12859 From: Denver, Colorado Registered: May 99 posted 03-20-2012 03:57 PM                        Mike, you just know how they'd handle it: "Introducing Windows Doorway!"  |  IP: Logged Joe Redifer You need a beating today Posts: 12859 From: Denver, Colorado Registered: May 99 posted 09-29-2012 07:01 PM                        David I'm hoping you can help again. The times are now broken. As I add episodes to the list, I need to move the total down. I did a copy and paste but that didn't seem to copy the actual formula, just the numbers representing the result. Before I did that I tried to double-click into the cell and I couldn't get out. Every other cell I clicked on turned green, red blue, etc for no reason whatsoever. I could not escape and had to quit the program. Not sure how to copy and paste in order to move it down and get it to still work. I don't want it too far below the episode total so it will need to move constantly. Help! Here's the file again.  |  IP: Logged Frank Cox Film God Posts: 2234 From: Melville Saskatchewan Canada Registered: Apr 2011 posted 09-29-2012 07:45 PM                        Have you considered that you may be using the wrong tool for the job? (When all you have is a hammer, every problem looks like a nail.) A simple database would be something to consider. It would probably scale a lot better and give you more flexibility in terms of what reports you can get out of it. Microsoft's JET database is widely used, though I don't personally know anything about it other than how to extract data from it with mdbtools.  |  IP: Logged

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