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Jeff Taylor
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I know it's not the latest and greatest, but I'm very happy with my Nook Color. Now that they've added microsoft office and full internet, email, and video it does everything I need it to do. With the micro SD card I carry 30 movies, 5000 books, Netflix, and a reasonable selection of files with me. What more can you ask for $150?

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Claude S. Ayakawa
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Sorry for not getting back to you sooner with the answer to your question, Scott. I have not looked into different kinds of photo portfolio aps for my iPad yet but I will eventually. All I have done so far was storing about a hundred images of the different kinds of photography work I do and I have been impressing a lot of people with them. Doing it on a iPad is hell of a lot better than showing my work to people on my Mac Book Pro laptop or my smartphone. I just cannot get over how gorgeous my images look on my new portable devise. I have also downloaded a lot of classical music from my laptop and have also bought some from iTunes for my iPad. I have also found the iPad a very convenient way to check my email or view some of my favorite websites on it including Film Tech where I Have been posting with it ever since I got it.

-Claude

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Leo Enticknap
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quote: Daily Mail


Apple 'planning to sell £150 iPad Mini AT A LOSS in order to kill off Android tablets'
  • Claims suggest Apple will launch iPad Mini this October for between $200-$250
  • Dramatic price-point will help Apple compete with cheaper Android tablets
  • Apple's $100billion cash reserves may soften blow of loss-making device
Apple is planning to launch an assault against the burgeoning Android tablet market by releasing an 'iPad Mini' - at a loss-making price of around £150, according to new claims.
The bargain-basement priced tablet will even feature the same 'Retina' display featured on its big brother, bringing the same 3.1million pixels to a smaller 7-8" display.

Sources told Apple fansite iMore that the aggressively-priced tablet will launch in October this year, with Apple potentially selling the sub-$250 tablet at a loss in order to leave no room for competition.

With Apple sitting on cash reserves of $100bn, the tech giant should at least be able to stomach such a move financially.

iMore reported: 'Today's claim says that Apple is going to step-up the pressure on Android tablet manufacturers with an iPad mini that will sell for a surprisingly low $200-250.

'That's a bit hard to accept in the light of the other major claim this rumor makes, that the iPad mini will keep the full-sized iPad's 2048x1536 resolution.

'If this is true, Apple might have to take a serious cut to its margins, if not sell the mini at a loss. Considering the kind of cash Apple has on hand, though, it might be willing to take the hit just to help kill-off competition from Android tablets.'

If the iPad sells for $250 in the States, that would translate to £150 in the UK, although whether Apple would respect currency rates is up for debate.

With the screen as a premium feature, it is likely sacrifices will be made in other parts of the tablet, such as reduced storage space of, for instance, 8GB for your apps, videos and music.

This will likely cause issues for users as that amount of space will be used up quickly, marking this out as very much a budget tablet.

However, it will also appeal to people who want an iPad for casual browsing and occasional use of apps and movies, but who are not willing to shell out £400 for the bigger brother.

iMore and another website, Daring Fireball, have separately heard that Apple has already built the seven-inch device, and the only decision left is whether to 'go to market'.

Both iMore and Daring Fireball have proven to be reliable sources of internal Apple discussions in the past.

Steve Jobs hated the thought of a smaller iPad, calling them 'dead on arrival'. He said people did not wish to use smaller tablets for video-playback, and feared a smaller tablet would serve as a bridge between the iPad and the iPhone, resulting in app-makers simply 'stretching' their phone apps for the tablet.

In a 2010 earnings call, he said: 'One naturally thinks that a seven-inch screen would offer 70 percent of the benefits of a ten-inch screen.

'Unfortunately, this is far from the truth. … The reason we won't make a seven-inch tablet isn’t because we don’t want to hit a lower price point, it’s because we think the screen is too small to express the software.'

Another big problem - which Android is struggling to deal with - would be the resulting fragmentation, with app-makers having to invest more money for coding different versions of their apps for different devices, something Apple has almost entirely succeeded at avoiding so far.

With the Android tablet market maturing, and competitors like Amazon launching their own tablets such as the Kindle Fire at less than $200, it would make sense for Apple to join the burgeoning cheaper market, although the company may be concerned about devaluing their premium brand, which is associated with high prices but also high quality.

However the company has previous form with cheaper models. The iPod music player was released in 2001, and in 2004 and 2005 the iPod Minis and Nanos were released, bringing elements of Apple's flagship device to a cheaper market.

In March, a source from within competitor Samsung made a 'mini' indescretion while talking to the Korea Times.

While discussing Apple and Samsung's $9.7billion deal for Samsung to manufacturer parts of the iPad, an official said: 'The contract is expected to rise to $11billion by the end of this year as Apple is planning to release a smaller iPad, probably with a 7.85-inch screen, and to sell more of its MacBook Air PCs using Samsung’s faster solid state drive storage.'

Hmm. As an Android tablet owner myself, I would have been tempted by this, but it'll probably come with virtually no memory and no facility to insert a card to expand its capacity.

And incidentally, if $250 is going to be the US price, no way will it be as low as £150 in Britain. Our 20% sales tax (VAT) will see to that alone, even before you factor in higher business operating costs (everything from corporation tax to higher energy bills for stores etc.). I'd say £200 minimum. Against that, reasonable Android tablets are available at around the £100-120 mark (my 10" Archos cost around that), with a 32gb memory card for another £20. Given that the type of people who buy Android tablets tend to be more IT-savvy anyway and therefore processor speed and storage cacapity will be an issue for them, if the predicted sale price of the "Ipad lite" is accurate, I suspect that it's a bit too high to knock Android out of the market.

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Joe Redifer
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If you want an iPad Mini just by an iPod.

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Bobby Henderson
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I see no logic with the notion a low price point on an "iPad Mini" would be enough to kill Android based tablets.

Example: a mobile phone customer can buy a brand new iPhone 4S for the same $200 price one will pay for the latest Android phones. Earlier iPhone models are being sold for under $100. With such Apple-branded bargains available why is anyone still buying an Android phone?

Obviously there are numerous reasons why some people avoid Apple's "i" product food chain.

I prefer my Android phone over an iPhone because it works in a very straight forward manner, particularly in regard to moving data between the phone and other devices. I don't need iTunes freaking permission to cut/copy/paste a media file from one location to another. While my phone doesn't have Siri, it does have a lot of other capabilities (some of them pretty basic) that iPhones and iPads don't but should have.

The way I see it, Apple isn't different from any other huge multi-national corporation bent on a monopolist strategy. The whole "i" food chain is a very closed setup. When Apple wants your opinion they'll give it to you. Google is trying to be all cloud-like similar to Apple and so many others. But at least users have the option move and manage files in same old ways in addition to doing that cloud-sync crap.

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Mike Heenan
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The one thing I don't like about the iPad is storage space for extra movies. However with a forthcoming jailbreak, this issue will be moot (Of course we can argue that Apple should have made it possible for us to use an SD card for extra storage, but whatever...)

I have the 16GB wifi only model and have not run into space issues yet. The box.net app I signed up for during a promotion gives me 50GB storage (not as great as Dropbox, but for storage only it's killer), and of course Dropbox has 2GB, but that can grow. Also, Microsoft Skydrive gave you 25GB at one time (got that too), so between all these cloud storage apps, I have about 80GB total.

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Joe Redifer
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There's a big difference in local storage and cloud storage.

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Mike Blakesley
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I do kinda wonder about cloud storage too. What if you have all your crap on Google and the terrorists figure a way to hit Google's servers. Maybe there are weird sunspots or something that wipes out a bunch of stuff. I don't know, it just seems like if you have cloud storage you ought to have backups in a couple or three different places, just in case, for really important stuff.

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Leo Enticknap
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Agreed completely and utterly. And even if the problem isn't as dramatic as terrorists hitting Google's servers, we know that gremlins hit Blackberry's servers last year, and so this kind of thing can and does happen.

I have a completely luddite approach to data backup. Every Sunday night, all the files I want to protect and can't easily be replaced get transferred to one of two portable 1TB hard drives I own. On Monday morning, it goes with me to the office and sits in my desk drawer for the following week, and drive #2 comes home on Friday evening. The following Sunday, drive #2 gets reformatted and overwritten with the new backup, rinse and repeat. I've also put a 1TB drive in my laptop, and so another copy of the data gets written to that from my main home PC just before each time I go travelling. All these copies are Truecrypt-encrypted.

This means that there is always a copy of the data I don't want to lose in a separate physical location from my home PC, and it is encrypted such that only I can read it. Yes, this is a bit of a faff and not as convenient as using clouds, but frankly I trust myself to look after my data more than I'd trust Google, Apple, MS etc.

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Bobby Henderson
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Lately my Internet service hasn't been running well. I'm wondering if it has to do with AEP crews working on a project to bury all the power lines in my neighborhood. Anyway, if I was relying on cloud services like Dropbox, Google Play, etc. to get to my data I would be having problems trying to download anything big.

It may be a "luddite" approach, but using removable hard discs and flash memory sticks (or my phone) to move files the "sneaker network" way is pretty easy.

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Mike Heenan
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Oh I agree about cloud vs local. I only use cloud for stuff like books and large pdf's for reading. For my upcoming trip, I will be importing my pictures onto the ipad first, and then uploading to the cloud via Box or Sky Drive app's. Then when I get home I'll download them onto my computer and do a backup of that. Kind of annoying to have to go through all these steps, but I don't want to risk a MBP getting stolen, plus the iPad is super light and perfect for a backpack.

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Robert E. Allen
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Good grief! Now I know I'm 80 years old. I didn't understand a thing Mike said.

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Chris Slycord
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^^^
Local = Local storage on your computer
Cloud = storage on some internet server computer

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Sam Graham
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The only thing I'm using Cloud for is to sync newly taken photos and notes between devices ("notes" being stuff like my grocery list). Otherwise, I connect and sync backups to my local drives.

I agree with Bobby...Apple couldn't kill Android on a price war. The idea that a company who has always successfully charged a premium for everything they make would even try seems absurd. And they're already the dominant player in the tablet market anyway. I think a smaller tablet would compliment the iPad in the market place nicely, but I can't imagine the thinking at Apple would be they could kill off Android with it.

I also don't buy the article's argument of a new smaller tablet creating a 'fragmentation' problem. The article speculates that the smaller tablet would have the same resolution and power as the current iPad. That means any app already written for iPad should work identically...just on a smaller screen.

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Paul Gordon
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Playbook is $200.00 and can you believe it you can multitask!

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