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Topic: New York plans to ban sugared drinks over 16 oz.
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Gerard S. Cohen
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From: Forest Hills, NY, USA
Registered: Sep 2001
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posted 06-01-2012 10:35 PM
This proposal of Mayor Bloomberg is only the latest in his campaign to lessen the enormous drain on New York City's health and financial resources caused by unhealthy habits. Since those habits are promoted by the wealth of corporations that target children and others who are bombarded by television and print commercials, "happy meals", ever-increasing portion up-sizing, etc, he feels there is a need to push back to counter this avalanche of addictive habit-forming propaganda that leads to obesity, diabetis,lung cancer and the debilitation of the city's health, wealth and productivity.
The mayor's ever-unfolding program includes bike paths, a pilot program using 10,000 bicycles for short trips as is done in many European and some Canadian cities, walking paths along waterfronts, upgrading parks, letter-grading restaurants and food carts, permitting sidewalk stands selling fresh fruits and vegetables (vendors'priority to wounded veterans and handicapped), farmers' markets, bans on smoking, etc.
These steps do not diminish freedom of choice, but try to limit the damage we do to ourselves and others while providing far more choices for healthy recreation, it seems to me.
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Leo Enticknap
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From: Loma Linda, CA
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posted 06-01-2012 10:47 PM
quote: Ron Funderberg
I had emergency surgery May 2nd for an intestinal abscess. It was about 6 inches long 3 inches thick and 2 1/2 inches wide. I was told by the doctor had I waited another 12 hours I would have been dead before they got me in surgery. There was fear of cancer. The it is a common problem caused by age more than anything else. It is called diverticulitis but mine became extrem.
More or less exactly the same thing happened to a former colleague of mine a couple of years ago, except that it was cancer and they didn't catch it in time. We could all see that he was seriously unwell for the best part of a year, but he insisted that it was just "a bug" or that he was "a bit under the weather". Given that he smoked probably over 100 a day and regarded fruit and vegetables as something that only girlie men ate, I suspected that he was in denial. During this period he boasted a couple of times, in all seriousness, that he had never seen any medical professional since the age of 13 (apart from for travel vaccinations) and was proud of it. When he did eventually see a GP he was put on a waiting list for hospital investigations (without wanting to get into a comparison of the British and American healthcare systems, the National Health Service waiting lists are basically our equivalent to the problem of not being able to afford insurance). He collapsed and was hospitalised through the emergency room before that happened: colon cancer, final stages, end of story. Though his chances wouldn't have been great if it had been caught earlier, he would have had a chance.
quote: Bobby Henderson
I don't like how the food industry has turned healthy foods into a "luxury asset class." Check the prices in any Whole Foods grocery store and you'll understand why some people jokingly call the place "Whole Paycheck."
Amen to that! My fiancee is from Loma Linda, CA, the chief claim to fame of which is that it's America's Blue Zone. The population (including her) is mostly Seventh-Day Adventist, a religion that encourages a vegan, whole plant diet. Earlier this year, there was even a campaign to stop McDonald's from opening up in the city! The food is absolutely lovely, and totally defies the stereotype of vegetarian food being bland and boring ... but it's certainly not cheap. A diet based on the local staples of nuts, organic green veg, beans, tofu and rice, costs, I would guess, probably around 30-40% more than GMO-ed and processed up the wazoo traditional meat and potatoes stuff from Staters or WalMart. And it also costs in terms of preparation time. This kind of food does not come in pre-prepared plastic dishes that you can just nuke in the microwave for six minutes, peel off the wrapper and eat. And that's assuming you can get these foods at all: not a problem in Loma Linda, but try buying organic anything in a typical store in the city next door, and you'll be trying for a long time. The problem isn't restricted to America. If you want a diet that is not dominated by processed, salty, cheesy and sugary crap in England, too, achieving one is difficult and expensive. My local supermarket in York doesn't even stock tofu, black beans or organic fresh vegetables.
Edit: Bloomberg's proposal has made the British papers now.
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Chris Slycord
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From: 청주시, 경북도, South Korea
Registered: Mar 2007
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posted 06-02-2012 12:27 AM
quote: Bobby Henderson
Nevertheless, I consider High Fructose Corn Syrup to be at the very least an unnatural sweetener (instead of artificial). Numerous chemicals are used to create the processed sweetener: caustic soda, hydrochloric acid, alpha-amylase, gluco-amylase, isomerase, powdered carbon, calcium chloride and magnesium sulfate.
It's also unnatural in that HFCS is created with the use of genetically modified organisms.
quote: Joe Redifer
They should have just called it "New CokeŽ now with Aspartame"
Actually, New CokeŽ was created by taking Diet CokeŽ and replace the Aspartame with HFCS. New CokeŽ came second. ![[Smile]](smile.gif)
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Randy Stankey
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From: Erie, Pennsylvania
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posted 06-02-2012 01:06 AM
This is not government's job. It doesn't matter what the rationale. It's not government's job.
This is the reason why people left England and came to America. Because the government tried to pull too much crap over on the people, so we went some place else. Then they tried to follow us and pull more crap over on us. So, we kicked them out. Thirty years later, they came back and tried to pull more crap. So, we kicked them out again!
Now some fucking dick-cheese wants to try to make peoples lives better by telling them what they shouldn't eat? Incredible! Unbelievable! What the fuck?
What's next? Will we all have to wear white jump suits and crew cuts and put little tags in our ears? Will we have to all march around in lock-step everywhere we go? (I'm only half joking... See THX-1138.)
We need to kick fuckers like this out of government. Sue them for misprision. (Negligent dereliction of duty.) Impeach them and remove them from office. These cocksuckers can't even balance the goddamm budget! What the fuck are they doing meddling around in others affairs? Kick them out!
Wasn't it San Francisco that banned toys in Happy Meals? Didn't I say that McDonald's should have closed every restaurant within the SanFrancisco city limits?
That's what they should do in New York City. Every movie theater, every Mickey D's, every convenience store, every one, should lock their doors, send all their employees home and close up shop. They should take out full page ads in the New York Times that say they are going to stay closed until Michael Cock-in-the-Mouth Bloomberg puts a gun to his head and commits suicide on live television.
What a bunch of stupid fucking Polacks we have in charge of our government!
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Gerard S. Cohen
Jedi Master Film Handler
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From: Forest Hills, NY, USA
Registered: Sep 2001
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posted 06-02-2012 06:31 PM
The proposal to ban the serving of giant size sweet drinks is a proposal, not a decree. It will be followed by several months of hearings and discussions, as is the usual course in such things. And it is but a small part of a larger health initiative.
Carbonated sweet drinks were removed from vending machines in the schools long ago, and replaced by fruit and less fattening drinks. Nutritionists were called in to advise on healthier school breakfasts and lunches. In the subway today I read a poster from the NYC Health Department showing four cans; a sports drink,an iced tea,a cola and a soda, with a mountain of packets above, and the caption, "PUTTING ON WEIGHT? THESE CONTAIN THE EQUIVALENT OF 68 PACKETS OF SUGAR." (My translation from Spanish--the car was crowded, so I couldn't see a poster in English.)
Maybe some communities don't have serious problems with obesity,
but New York City does, and it affects the poor and uninsured most severely. Maybe there are communities that don't have to ban the import and use of fireworks, that can allow the import and carrying of unlicensed handguns, that can allow right turns on red lights, but the conditions of life in the big city are different.
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