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Brad Miller
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posted 08-05-2014 04:47 PM

Sure, but then you've got the retarded square screen, no masking, bad sound, etc. If Tarantino wants a true "roadshow" kind of release, he should stay far away from IMAX.

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Scott Norwood
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posted 08-05-2014 04:59 PM

Brad--what do you dislike about the Imax sound system? My experience (with real Imax, not Lie-Max) has been that the sound quality is always first-rate and better than one would find in a 35mm/DLP house. If nothing else, these systems actually get maintained regularly, unlike the sound systems in many multiplexes.

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Terry Monohan
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posted 08-05-2014 07:41 PM

I find the surround sound is not good at the large original Imax theatres. They just have two big speakers at the far left and right rear back. They don't even hide them, just a big bland speaker box ready to fall on some ones head during a earthquake. While the stage speakers have good stereo separation and bass the wrap around effect is missing from the surrounds at Imax as most speakers are not placed on the side walls. Many Imax screens I have been to in California the surround information is very low as they blast the front stage screen speakers. The old people have to cover their ears during the Imax demo at the start. The young people have hearing loss already from to much loud music.

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Brad Miller
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posted 08-05-2014 08:03 PM

Scott, they are shrill sounding, have no true low end and the surrounds only having 2 speakers can't create an atmosphere, only two specific points of sound. It's just movie sound done wrong.

You must live near a bunch of awful sounding first run locations.

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Joe Redifer
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posted 08-06-2014 09:52 PM

Oh man, IMAX sound is bad. It may used to have been good for the kinds of stuff they show, but certainly not for real movies. It's just not designed to deal with that type of sound. And it doesn't matter if the showing is digital or film-based IMAX, they're all likely using the same linear PCM digital sound playback. I saw Batman Rises or whatever it was called in IMAX on film and I was pissssed! Such awful sound. Such an awful picture as well. It was insulting. 35mm at my little rinky-dink mall theater was a hell of a lot brighter, sharper and far more pleasant to watch than a 15/70 IMAX show at the Colorado Center. My rinky-dink mall theater auditoriums sounded a hell of a lot better as well and they sounded like crap on the grand scale of things. Even my little auditoriums without subwoofers had more bass than Batman Rises in IMAX. The digital IMAXs I've seen have been equally shrill, like someone is stabbing my ears. IMAX sound is a joke. Employees of IMAX should be ashamed to put out such an inferior product.

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Terry Lynn-Stevens
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posted 08-06-2014 10:20 PM

quote: Joe Redifer
35mm at my little rinky-dink mall theater was a hell of a lot brighter, sharper and far more pleasant to watch than a 15/70 IMAX show at the Colorado Center.

What are you going to do when Interstellar is released in 15/70 this November?

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Joe Redifer
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posted 08-06-2014 10:49 PM

Me? Well personally I'd rather wait until the Blu-ray comes out but I imagine Jen will drag me to a regular d-cinema showing somewhere. There is no reason to believe that IMAX film presentation is still great and it is a disservice to pretend that it is. They just move it into place for the event and then move it back out of the way. They don't take their time to make sure everything is set up correctly and there is no oversight anywhere to make sure theaters comply. Plus it's IMAX. I don't care if part of it was shot in IMAX the aspect ratio sucks and so does the switching back and forth. Make up your mind, aspect ratio!

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Connor Wilson
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posted 08-07-2014 07:31 AM

quote: Joe Redifer
Oh man, IMAX sound is bad. It may used to have been good for the kinds of stuff they show, but certainly not for real movies. It's just not designed to deal with that type of sound. And it doesn't matter if the showing is digital or film-based IMAX, they're all likely using the same linear PCM digital sound playback. I saw Batman Rises or whatever it was called in IMAX on film and I was pissssed! Such awful sound. Such an awful picture as well. It was insulting. 35mm at my little rinky-dink mall theater was a hell of a lot brighter, sharper and far more pleasant to watch than a 15/70 IMAX show at the Colorado Center. My rinky-dink mall theater auditoriums sounded a hell of a lot better as well and they sounded like crap on the grand scale of things. Even my little auditoriums without subwoofers had more bass than Batman Rises in IMAX. The digital IMAXs I've seen have been equally shrill, like someone is stabbing my ears. IMAX sound is a joke. Employees of IMAX should be ashamed to put out such an inferior product.

That's too bad your Dark Knight Rises 15/70 experience was awful. I was lucky to see DKR in 15/70 at the IMAX in Palisades Mall, West Nyack, NY. At the time, it wasn't owned by a major chain like AMC or Regal, but it was owned and operated by IMAX themselves. The projectionist was from IATSE, and as a result, the image was sharper, brighter, overall a presentation better than most d-cinema locations. The IMAX sequences just looked unreal.

As for the sound, it was unfortunate DKR had a mediocre and bloated mix, one of the worst sound mixes for a major film in a long time. I first thought the sound system wasn't as good, but it was just the fault of the mix.

I later saw DKR rises again at a rinky-dink 35mm theatre in D.C. Guess what? The 35mm rinky-dink sound system was SUPERIOR to that IMAX, and at least the mix was better mastered on the 35mm prints. It was also a clean 35mm print without any major scratches. Ironically, the sequences shot in 35mm and standard 65mm looked sharper than the IMAX DMR on the 15/70 print.

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Leo Enticknap
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posted 08-07-2014 10:11 AM

Please forgive another shameless plug in the hope of reaching 70mm fans in the LA area: West Side Story on DTS 70 at the Egyptian on Thursday, September 11 - show just confirmed.

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Terry Lynn-Stevens
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posted 08-23-2014 11:28 AM

Saw the new Tarantino trailer at the movies yesterday. It was pretty damn cool to see them say "See it in glorious 70mm Cinescope" at the end. I can't wait.

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Jim Cassedy
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posted 08-23-2014 12:22 PM

Don't know if it's related to this release, but a couple of weeks ago, one of
the screening facilities I work at sort of gave me the "heads-up" that I may
be running some 70mm this fall and wanted me to make sure I checked out
their projectors sometime soon.

I'm sure the machines (a pair of Kinoton 35/70's) are in good shape since
35mm is still run on a semi-regular basis; - - it's mainly a matter of making
sure I know where all the 70mm lenses & aperture plates have been stashed.

I told them I'd take care of it in a couple of weeks when I get back from
working the Telluride Film Festival.

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Joe Redifer
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posted 08-25-2014 07:06 PM

quote: Terry Lynn-Stevens
It was pretty damn cool to see them say "See it in glorious 70mm Cinescope" at the end.

*Super Cinescope.

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