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Topic: Windows 10 ?
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Rusty Gordon
Film Handler
Posts: 33
From: Fairview, Tennessee USA
Registered: Feb 2004
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posted 06-04-2015 11:02 PM
I've been using various builds of the "Windows 10 Technical Preview" and more recently the renamed "Insider Preview" (build 10130) for about a year and steady improvements every step of the way have made it very serviceable as an operating system. I have been running it in a VMWare Fusion virtual machine on a Mac with 5K retina display using 2 processor cores, 4 GB RAM and 30 GB SDD and it looks amazing and is quite fast. I have been testing Sensible Cinema Software with it daily for about 6 months. I have a great deal of confidence in it already.
If anyone has any questions about the O/S itself, don't hesitate to ask. I do not have any details about price, availability or anything of that nature.
Here are some observations:
1) Start button and menu are back though in a somewhat different form factor than Windows 7.
2) Full screen Windows 8 Metro apps can now be run in a Window along side of regular Windows programs and other Metro apps.
3) You can boot to the traditional desktop.
4) Older programs that installed and ran on XP but were difficult or impossible to install on Windows 7, 8 and 8.1 did install without difficulty or even compatibility mode. For example, Visual Basic 6, Microsoft Office 97, et al. Things I had long written off do easily install---on the 32-bit version of Windows 10 anyway. I didn't try 64-bit but I believe it will install and run as a Win32 app.
5) Refinements to Windows Explorer, a pared down browser for when you don't need a full blown browser called "Project Spartan" launches when you click a link in an email for instance, more error logging, better security, reliable networking and shared folders (finally!), better search capabilities, and a clean look for ultra high resolution monitors.
It's evidence that Microsoft is listening to its customers. It is more of a collection of refinements than a major jump from Windows 8, but it addresses all of the criticisms of 8 not answered in 8.1 plus it adds stability and compatibility not found in 7, 8 and 8.1 without making users jump through hoops to get their programs to just work.
Rusty Gordon
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Marcel Birgelen
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Posts: 3357
From: Maastricht, Limburg, Netherlands
Registered: Feb 2012
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posted 06-05-2015 01:37 AM
quote: Mike Blakesley
I think the problem is more that computers and software are so capable now that it's impossible for them to put in new features that mean anything because the software already does everything imaginable. So they do things like automate tasks (which takes away the ability to tweak things) or load it down with features nobody needs.
Software companies around the globe started to recognize this problem and the potential hurt it does to their cashflow...
In my opinion, people have become to fear updates more than that they're anticipating them. I'm still keeping Adobe Master Collection CS6 around and quite frankly, I'd be perfectly happy with CS5 or maybe even CS4. The same goes or Office... I'm still using Office 2010 on one PC, while the other is on 2013. There is not a single feature I'm missing in the 2010 release.
Since people stopped buying into constant updates for features they never even asked for, the software companies started switching to subscription models. Right now it's the only way to get any of the recent Adobe products, even large volume customers are being pushed into subscription models.
In the end, it will just cost you more money and time... Just look at the average browser experience those days, you never know what new or rearranged buttons you'll find once you restart your browser, but every time the thing needs a minute or two to load, you know it's update time...
Firefox, for example, put two new buttons alongside the address bar I never asked for within a month or two. Also, this "new age" version numbering is just ridiculous, I've totally lost track what the current versions of both Firefox and Chrome should be.
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Leo Enticknap
Film God
Posts: 7474
From: Loma Linda, CA
Registered: Jul 2000
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posted 08-03-2015 06:06 PM
I installed it on my laptop this morning.
I was not impressed at not being allowed to do a "clean install". This was a laptop that came with 8.1 pre-installed by the OEM, with the product key in UEFI. When I booted the 10 ISO from a flash stick, it wouldn't pick up the existing product ID, and asked me for a key. So I retrieved my key, but the Windows 10 installer wouldn't accept it. I therefore had to run it as an upgrade from 8.1 (which I did after saving a Clonezilla image of the unmolested 8.1 partition, in case I wanted or needed to roll back).
The upgrade process went smoothly (took about an hour), without any reported errors. Afterwards, I established that it is possible to delete the Windows 8 files that the upgrading process archives, by doing a disc cleanup on C: and selecting the "Delete previous versions of Windows" option. I haven't done this yet, and won't until I'm 100% convinced that all my software and settings have been preserved reliably. So far so good.
As far as W10 itself goes, I cannot see any difference from 8 apart from the reconfigured start menu, which is basically a scaled down version of the W8 icon screen that appears where the old 7/Vista/XP start menu used to. I haven't tried the new browser yet, but don't intend to anyway because I use Firefox for everything except a small number of sites that will only work with IE.
Presumably there are some "under the hood" differences that will become apparent in the fullness of time. If not, I can't understand why they needed to come out with a whole new version of Windows, rather than just give you the new start menu as an option for 8 (in the same way that you can install the "Gnome classic" menu as an option on Ubuntu). Maybe they figured that Windows 8 is a tainted brand name and they had to start afresh.
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