Kinoton SPT5000

[Rob Clarke Tucker]

Hi, looking for either a manual or dimensions of a Kinoton SPT5000 tower including height plus reels.

If any one can help, please drop me a line.

Cheers,

Rob.

[Steve Guttag]

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Is this enough information or do you also need the SPT5000K (the one with reels on either side of the unit)?

[Rob Clarke Tucker]

Thanks Steve, exactly what i need, much appreciated

[Tj Hopland]

Now that the original question has been answered........

So with this setup is there a feed out and take up spool? Or can it be run either direction? I suppose in many cases you would not usually need to remove a full reel? Or were these sometimes treated like platters in a multiplex so you were shuffling full reels around the plex all the time? Or swapping reels during your split or fest?

The side by side version is the same just different layout that could better suit a space or workflow?


I know this concept was never especially popular in the USA. I think I remember seeing catalogs and hearing that Xetron was importing a Cinemeccanica version in the early xenon and automation days but I don't think it was that popular. I'm sure it wasn't cheap and then you had the limitation of needing some time to rewind so you could not run the same title back to back without a decent gap. Eventually Eprad and I'm sure a few others came up with some options that helped the cost issue but I think that rewind time was often a problem. Real small towns that didn't have multiple show times or drive ins seemed to be where most of them ended up.

How fast could the Kinoton or Cinemeccanica rewind safely and reliably? I know the Eprad about 1/2 hour for a 2 hour feature was starting to get into that danger zone.

[Gordon McLeod]

The cinemecanica rewound a 90 min feature in about 15 min on high speed

[Thomas Piccione]

Now that the original question has been answered........

So with this setup is there a feed out and take up spool? Or can it be run either direction?

The side by side version is the same just different layout that could better suit a space or workflow?

How fast could the Kinoton or Cinemeccanica rewind safely and reliably? I know the Eprad about 1/2 hour for a 2 hour feature was starting to get into that danger zone.

There is an inherent feed and takeup on the Kinoton spool towers, but that's just because the rewind is configured to only run 1 way. The motors and control system will allow you to run to or from either reel on the tower. The side by side K model is the same internals and functionality, just better suited for some locations where you don't have quite so much height (or never want to lift a fully loaded reel up that high). Either model will rewind 17,000' of film (or a 180 minute feature) in 15 minutes; they move quite fast.

[Steve Guttag]

You'll find that the SPT5000 lines up quite nicely with their FP30 series projectors so the upper reel is always the supply reel and the lower is always the take up.

[Tj Hopland]

15 minutes isn't bad. You can't hardly turn over an auditorium that fast, well at least back in the pre recliner days.

[Rob Clarke Tucker]

Just out of interest can you use small reels like 6k reels on SPT5000. Obviously the full height is around 7ft higher then my ceiling requirements of 6.5 ft. Obviously having the SPT5000K would be better, space wise. I will be using this with a FP30 series.

[Thomas Piccione]

Just out of interest can you use small reels like 6k reels on SPT5000.

Yes, there is a reel size select switch on the back to adjust tension/speed. As long as you have reels with an appropriate shaft diameter, you will be golden.

[Rob Clarke Tucker]

Great thanks Thomas, just need to find some reels with the right shafts.

[Tj Hopland]

What is the shaft size on the unit? Did they make different ones or was there just one option? I assume the build up shaft had some quick change options?

What are the sizes around the world? Seems like I remember 9mm being used somewhere?

[Thomas Piccione]

What is the shaft size on the unit? Did they make different ones or was there just one option? I assume the build up shaft had some quick change options?

What are the sizes around the world? Seems like I remember 9mm being used somewhere?

They are by default 12.7mm, aka 1/2". You could special order a different size, but nominally they came with the 1/2" shafts.

What they called the "external mechanical friction" for 600m / 2000' reels came with a 9mm shaft.

[Tj Hopland]

Where (equipment and country) and what size reels were the 9mm shafts normally used on?

[Thomas Piccione]

To my knowledge, 9mm was the European standard for smaller reels, akin to what we use 5/16" shafts for in the USA. Kinoton offered it as a shaft option on their projectors in addition to other sizes.