Ever since I started loading movies at our theater, I've noticed that Sony never includes 7.1 tracks on their DCPs. It's always Atmos and 5.1 backup only. Do they have a legitimate reason for doing this? Even their BluRay releases only have 5.1 on them. Feels like they're purposely short changing installations that aren't running Atmos. Feels really odd running Uncharted in 5.1 in our larger theater while Death on the Nile is running in 7.1 next door...
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Same over here in Europe. In a similar way, SONY, as long as they were producing DCI projectors, was endorsing 4k as the ultimate cinema experience - yet Sony Pictures never released 4k DCPs.
Stupid, since nowadays, the ATMOS production toolset supports an automatic 5.1 and 7.1 downmix of an ATMOS mix. -
You can do that in Nuendo with a simple drop down menu. And if their dubbing stages can mix Atmos it's a virtual guarantee they can do 7.1 as well.
5.1 only is a deliberate decision on their part, I just can't fathom why they're doing it other than to be dicks. They give you a two month window on decryption keys, which is very generous, but then they match it with a gimped audio track, and the difference between 5.1 and 7.1 in a theater can be pronounced (and not in 5.1's favor).Comment
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Has anyone reached out to Sony contacts to ask this question? It honestly could be an oversight or some weird management decision that might be fixed if they hear from enough people.
We don't run 7.1 yet but will be in the future. If enough people reach out, they may fix things.Comment
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But creative types don't like automatic, as a general rule. I suspect that the sound designer, dubbing mixer, director, music editor, etc. would all want to QC a separate 7.1 mix and suggest tweaks, re-edits, etc. So producing two separate non-Atmos mixes would likely add significant post time (and cost). That having been said, most of the other big studios are prepared to make that investment, which begs the question as to why Sony isn't.Originally posted by Carsten KurzComment
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I remember getting a (letter? email? something?) from Sony a few years ago saying that a few theatres were using something to fake 7.1 sound on their movies and everyone should stop that since Sony movies are 5.1 and that's all there is to it.Comment
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With common cinema gear, it isn't all that trivial to fake 7.1 from a 5.1 DCP, I wonder what kind of wacky setups they must have been running to "upmix" 5.1 to 7.1.
Then again, we've upmixed some 5.1 mixes to 7.1 and 2.1 mixes to 5.1 with some modern neural-network based filters and the results are pretty stellar...Comment
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It's always ridiculous to me when Nolan gets slammed for this when he does it for a reason.
Perhaps I'm too young, but I've never seen people complaining that you can't hear what The Professor tells Roger when he's walking him to the plane at Midway Aiirport in North By Northwest and the plane engines start.Comment
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Yes, he is nothing if not deliberate with his sound choices (like everything else in his movies), but that doesn't mean I have to like it. Personally I find the sound mixes of many of his movies to be obnoxiously loud. I'm curious how that's going to play out with "Oppenhiemer".
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