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  • Peter Mork
    Pro Film Handler
    • Jan 2020
    • 124
    • Boston

    #1

    What's this LAS?

    Excuse my extreme ignorance, but there's often a bunch of KDMs included in a download labeled EN-LAS.

    Spanish subtitles, or what? I never ingest these, I hate clutter. But what's the LAS stand for?

    Thanks.
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  • Martin McCaffery
    Expert Film Handler
    • Jan 2020
    • 575
    • Montgomery, Alabama

    #2
    Latin American Spanish

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    • Peter Mork
      Pro Film Handler
      • Jan 2020
      • 124
      • Boston

      #3
      Subtitles or dubtitles?

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      • Dave Macaulay
        Pro Film Handler
        • Jan 2020
        • 460
        • Toronto, Ontario, Canada

        #4
        You can look up the DCP naming convention - I don't have it atm. I believe this is the OCAP/CCAP subtitling language, Latin American Spanish.
        The keys are quite small files and don't add up to enough data to matter. Some distributors send every possible KDM for a feature to avoid the hassle of dealing with calls for KDMs from a site deciding to play an OCAP show or a different language VF for HI or ethnic customers. All variations have different UUIDs and need specific KDMs.
        You don't need to ingest any OV or VF content you won't be using.

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        • Martin McCaffery
          Expert Film Handler
          • Jan 2020
          • 575
          • Montgomery, Alabama

          #5
          Subtitles or dubtitles?
          EN_LAS=English with Latin American Subtitles
          EN_XX= English, no subtitles.

          Get a look at that aspect ratio, btw. We just ran it, so I will warn those of you with movable side masking the the opening Company Production cards (what ever you call those things before the titles) are not all in 1.55, so a few will show on your masking. But screw them. If they are going to release a movie in 1.55 they should make the whole picture in 1.55.

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          • Jim Cassedy
            Film God
            • Jan 2020
            • 1450
            • San Francisco

            #6
            Originally posted by Martin McCaffery

            I will warn those of you with movable side masking the the opening Company Production cards (what ever you
            call those things before the titles) are not all in 1.55, so a few will show on your masking. But screw them.
            Netflix is great at having the opening logo/production title cards AND often the end credits in a totally different
            aspect ratio than the feature. (If the feature is anything other than 1.77 ) Last year at Telluride I ran some
            Netflix release that was 1:33, and, at the beginning in addition to the NETFLIX ID, (1.77) it had additional title
            logo cards for several other co-production companies- - in at least 3 different aspect ratios. And the end credits
            went back to 1:77 but fortunately, they were composed so that they (mostly) fit inside the 1:33 masking area,
            so I didn't bother to muck around with the masking for the one or long lines in the credits where a few letters
            spilled onto the black. The final NETFLIX logo went "full screen" but their end logos are only about 2.5sec long,
            and at that point curtains are closing, lights are raising, and 99% of the people were out of the auditorium anyway.
            To re-quote Martin: "screw them" lol

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            • Steve Guttag
              Film God
              • Jan 2020
              • 3777
              • Annapolis, MD

              #7
              Spoken Language-Written Language (captions/subtilties)

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              • Martin McCaffery
                Expert Film Handler
                • Jan 2020
                • 575
                • Montgomery, Alabama

                #8
                Seriously. How hard is it to conform title cards? Or are they contractually obligated to show them in the biggest aspect ratio available within the specific container?

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                • Carsten Kurz
                  Film God
                  • Jan 2020
                  • 1481
                  • Germany

                  #9
                  They simply have no idea what cinema is.

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                  • Marcel Birgelen
                    Film God
                    • Jan 2020
                    • 3619
                    • Maastricht, NL

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Martin McCaffery
                    Seriously. How hard is it to conform title cards? Or are they contractually obligated to show them in the biggest aspect ratio available within the specific container?
                    What Carsten said...

                    How many of those Netflix and Amazon Studios DCP releases have been complete screwups? Those cinema engagements are just there to get their titles considered for an Accademy Award amongst others...

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                    • Martin Brooks
                      Pro Film Handler
                      • Jan 2020
                      • 177
                      • NYC

                      #11
                      That's all very strange because Netflix does have very specific capture and framing requirements: https://partnerhelp.netflixstudios.c...est-Practices#

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                      • Carsten Kurz
                        Film God
                        • Jan 2020
                        • 1481
                        • Germany

                        #12
                        Well, that's for capturing/aqusition, not for presentation. You can also see there that they think strictly 16:9

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                        • Marcel Birgelen
                          Film God
                          • Jan 2020
                          • 3619
                          • Maastricht, NL

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Martin Brooks
                          That's all very strange because Netflix does have very specific capture and framing requirements: https://partnerhelp.netflixstudios.c...est-Practices#
                          Yeah, everything in there screams video first. In their mind, everything ends up in a box with an AR of 1.77...

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