Barco DP2K-20C: SPG prong fused to brass cup in lamphouse anode connector

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  • Leo Enticknap
    Film God
    • Jan 2020
    • 3575
    • Loma Linda, CA

    #16
    Did the repair this morning, and it was less tortuous than I'd feared.

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    Using a 17mm deep socket on the outer nut and a pair of needle nose pliers to hold the inner, I was able to remove the cathode connection pin from the SPG.

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    With the cathode pin out of the way, I was able to rotate the SPG around 70 to 80° counter-clockwise:

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    That gave me the wriggle room needed to push the lamphouse module in just far enough to get my fingers behind the bulkhead and release the four catches on the UV blocker's frame.

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    With that done, I was able to lift the UV blocker frame, and pull the plastic anode insulator out of the lamphouse module. Again, it was hair-raisingly tight (if the anode flylead had been a quarter inch shorter, this would not have been possible, though in that scenario I could have lifted the UV blocker high enough to get a big pair of dikes in and cut the flylead), but I was just able to get wrenches in and separate the lamp from the seized anode pin, thereby enabling me to pull the SPG out of the projector with the seized anode connector attached to it:

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    The NFG SPG out of the projector:

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    The two surfaces were absolutely welded solid. Even a pry bar whacked with a hammer failed to produce even the slightest movement. Close-up of the fused connection:

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    The lucky break was that these were the only two welded surfaces. The cathode pin and its connections were all good, as was the adapter at the back of the lamp. I replaced the cathode pin and insulator as well, though, because a new set had been ordered, and there was no point in risking the same thing happening to that as well.

    As the above photos make painfully obvious, the next order of business was a serious cleaning session in the lamphouse compartment, on both sides of the bulkhead.

    After replacement of the SPG, cathode connection receptacle and insulator, and reassembly:

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    I brought the Dremel and hacksaw with me just in case, but thankfully did not need them. I was hoping to avoid spraying brass fragments all over the projector and booth.

    Thanks for everyone's suggestions.
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    Last edited by Leo Enticknap; 12-08-2025, 05:00 PM.

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    • Ryan Gallagher
      Film God
      • Nov 2022
      • 2855
      • Austin, Texas, USA

      #17
      Nice. The cutting tools, had they been left behind, would definitely have been needed. Not unlike your umbrella!

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      • Caleb Williams
        Pro Film Handler
        • Jun 2022
        • 149
        • Casper, Wyoming, USA

        #18
        Originally posted by Steve Guttag
        "Unexpected Lamp Off" errors drive me absolutely nuts with Christie projectors. With the new Cine-Life + RGB laser projectors, hopefully, that is in the past.
        We've had even stranger issues with series 3 Cine-Life RGB's not lighting because "there's no errors but they just aren't feeling up to it". (Reboot required)

        My favorite (and most frustrating) lamp issue with the Christie's is when the extractor fan leaf sensor is feeling saucy and does a little break-dance in the exhaust airstream, kicking off the lamp in the middle of a show.

        Congrats and well done on a damn sketchy job Leo!

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        • Steve Guttag
          Film God
          • Jan 2020
          • 3777
          • Annapolis, MD

          #19
          Christie's sail-switches have been notorious for many decades. However, in the film systems, the lamp would re-strike once the switch agreed that there was air flow. Not so in the digital cinema age. How a company that can have clever software cannot also "debounce" an obvious air flow turbulence is beyond me. Their door switches can get you too. Again, with the Series 4 Cine-Life +, I'm hoping that these things are behind me.

          I have had, now one instance, on an S4, where the projector wasn't "feeling like it." It wouldn't put out an image (with test patterns or content)...you'd get some pixels lit up and that is about it. Rebooting solved the immediate issue (get the show going). It is on current software. Oddly, the incident happened not too long after moving the more current software.

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          • Caleb Williams
            Pro Film Handler
            • Jun 2022
            • 149
            • Casper, Wyoming, USA

            #20
            Originally posted by Steve Guttag
            Christie's sail-switches have been notorious for many decades. However, in the film systems, the lamp would re-strike once the switch agreed that there was air flow. Not so in the digital cinema age. How a company that can have clever software cannot also "debounce" an obvious air flow turbulence is beyond me. Their door switches can get you too. Again, with the Series 4 Cine-Life +, I'm hoping that these things are behind me.

            I have had, now one instance, on an S4, where the projector wasn't "feeling like it." It wouldn't put out an image (with test patterns or content)...you'd get some pixels lit up and that is about it. Rebooting solved the immediate issue (get the show going). It is on current software. Oddly, the incident happened not too long after moving the more current software.

            Hopefully the incidence is much lower on S4 at least.

            I wonder if part of the reason they don't debounce those switches is because of the ballasts they chose to put in S1 and S2? Safety standards for supplies like that have also changed over the years. The interlocks related to lamp power feed sensor input directly to the lamp ballast. Though I suppose they probably had a lot of control over how they communicate with the ballast, and just chose not to implement a re-strike scenario.

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            • Steve Guttag
              Film God
              • Jan 2020
              • 3777
              • Annapolis, MD

              #21
              Whatever safety claims they may have claimed (if that was their reasoning) are BS. If the switch is claiming no air or open door, the lamp can stay off. But once the error has cleared, it should go back on. Furthermore, it doesn't take too much coding to decide if the problem was a momentary bobble or a sustained issue to determine if an auto-restrike should be tried. Including having a time out if say 5 restricts in a row fail. Heck, Film-Tech puts light sensors (CDS cells) to determine if the lamp is off when it should be on to restrike it via command. The projector should be smart enough to overcome its own shortcomings without external help like that.

              What I don't like about external devices doing such work is the external device not knowing why the lamp is off to know if it should attempt a restrike. The projector knows why it turned the lamp off.

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              • Ryan Gallagher
                Film God
                • Nov 2022
                • 2855
                • Austin, Texas, USA

                #22
                If they are just forcing a cool down to avoid a hot strike, it should at least strike again after the error is cleared. they can still flash the tail lights and log the error etc.

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                • Caleb Williams
                  Pro Film Handler
                  • Jun 2022
                  • 149
                  • Casper, Wyoming, USA

                  #23
                  Originally posted by Steve Guttag
                  What I don't like about external devices doing such work is the external device not knowing why the lamp is off to know if it should attempt a restrike. The projector knows why it turned the lamp off.
                  Funny you mention this, because the Solaria and CineLife+ api's expose any errors that occur with specific calls. So, you could theoretically design a system that would tell the projector to re-strike based on some narrow qualifications (like no existing extractor fan failure). The problem with that is, at least for Solaria, the damn endpoint on the TPC sometimes just doesn't respond because an internal software thread crashed quietly. (Usually that also means it's not taking cues). So you'd be back to square one, not knowing what happened to turn the lamp off.

                  I had a dream a while back of a suite of software that would monitor every automation-exposed device, cross-check with a schedule, and then fire off an email to IT if something wasn't in the right state. It would've been easy enough to add in some logic to correct the equipment state as well, but there aren't enough hours in the day to even start on the project.

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