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  • Ed Gordon
    Pro Film Handler
    • Jan 2020
    • 365
    • Seattle, WA, USA

    #1

    Bad Projection Is Ruining the Movie Theater Experience

    I came across an article posted at Vulture.com titled Bad Projection Is Ruining the Movie Theater Experience Multiplexes are failing at their most basic function: delivering a bright, sharp image written by By Lane Brown. The post is from March of 2023.

    Michelle Pfeiffer and Jonathan Majors look like crap. Usually, they’re two of the most radiant, dermatologically exceptional people in the world. But right now, they’re decrepit husks of themselves, their faces so drained of color that they could pass for cadavers.

    I’m watching Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania — in which she plays Ant-Man’s girlfriend’s mom, Janet van Dyne, and he plays time-traveling villain Kang the Conqueror — at the AMC Empire 25 near Times Square. Although a ticket to this matinee costs more than a month’s worth of Netflix’s priciest subscription plan, the image onscreen is so dim that it’s hard to make out much of the movie’s action and all of its glamorous stars have been turned dark gray. Next to me is Jack Theakston, a projection specialist who works as a contractor at Dolby Laboratories, who immediately diagnoses the problem: This is a 2-D showing of Ant-Man, but some neglectful employee has forgotten to remove the 3-D filter from the projector.

    “It’s a polarized lens that cuts a picture’s brightness by a third,” he says. “They just have to push it to the side when they switch to 2-D, but theaters forget to do it all the time. You can tell when it’s happening because if you look at the port-window glass, instead of a single image, you’ll see two, with one stacked on top of the other.” He points up to the booth behind us, and sure enough, there are two stacked beams.

    Theakston, who’s also a member of the IATSE Local 306 cinema-technicians union, has agreed to spend the afternoon assessing the projection quality at the AMC Empire and nearby Regal E-Walk multiplex, the flagship locations of the two largest cinema chains in the U.S. I buy us tickets to various movies, and we sneak around from theater to theater.

    At AMC, Ant-Man is the worst offender, but in another auditorium, trailers are playing on a screen that’s creased and sagging. Almost as bad: The picture is trapezoidal instead of rectangular, a phenomenon known as keystoning, which happens when a projector is not set up perpendicular to the screen. It’s fixable with software, if one bothers to do it.

    Across the street at the Regal E-Walk, there’s a torn masking curtain at Puss in Boots: The Last Wish, an out-of-calibration projector creating oddly colored highlights in Titanic 3D, and a presentation of Magic Mike’s Last Dance that bleeds a few inches off the top of the screen. And don’t get Theakston started on the bleak spectacle of the multiplex’s lobbies, the result of ongoing renovations. “It’s unacceptable to just have bare drywall like this,” he says on our way out. “They had the entire pandemic to redo this place and it still looks awful.”

    Anybody who still feels compelled, as I do, to see new movies in a theater needs a high tolerance for irritation. Exhibitors are constantly finding new ways to make the experience worse — from noisy, sub-Applebee’s dine-in service to AMC’s recently announced plan to charge more depending on where you sit. But the only thing that reliably makes me wish I’d waited for a title to come out on streaming is bad projection. If a movie theater can’t perform its most basic function and deliver a sharp, well-lit image with the right colors and contrast, then we might as well knock it down and put up a bank.

    For some theaters, this is seemingly too much to ask. Despite their inconsistency, the Empire and E-Walk are among the better multiplexes I’ve been to lately, and they certainly beat most of the ones outside the city. Last year, at a Regal in Hampton Bays, I saw a screening of The Batman that was so dark I had to read the movie’s plot summary on Wikipedia just to find out how it ended. At Don’t Worry Darling in Farmingdale, the picture hung off the right side of the screen by a foot.

    To be fair, theaters are broke. The pandemic closed them for a year, and then it disrupted Hollywood’s supply chain such that when multiplexes reopened there weren’t enough new movies to fill their schedules. Meanwhile, most first-run films now wind up on streaming after just a few weeks, and plenty bypass theaters altogether. Attendance, which had been in decline for two decades, has entered free fall: In 2022, ticket sales were down by more than 30 percent from 2019. Regal’s parent company filed for bankruptcy in September, and AMC has avoided the same fate (for now) thanks mainly to the meme investors who bought the company’s stock ironically.

    But the picture problems predated COVID-19. Many can be traced to 2009, when theaters swapped their film projectors for digital ones, made primarily by Sony, to show the original Avatar. Studios were excited about the switch because it meant they could save money by distributing movies over the internet instead of mailing around heavy film prints. Theater owners were excited because digital projectors could be programmed to run on their own without human projectionists to start them up and switch reels.

    Those projectionists, though, were highly skilled engineers and troubleshooters. Now that multiplexes use automated projection, problems fall to house managers, who, in this age of austerity, may be the same overworked employees ripping tickets and selling popcorn. If an error is serious or demands more than a wiped lens or system reboot, it might have to wait a couple weeks for a visit from a technician — or even longer if nobody complains.

    Today, the most common issue moviegoers are likely to encounter is a dim picture. One reason is that many of those Avatar-era projectors are still in service and showing their age. In 2020, Sony announced it was exiting the cinema-projection business and recently ended support on the models used by major chains. This was especially problematic because those machines have a known liability issue, an analyst tells Digital Cinema Report: “The ultraviolet light from the projector’s lamp slowly destroys the imaging device, and the projected image loses color. The solution is to replace the imaging devices once or twice a year.” But that’s an expensive fix, so not enough theaters do it.

    Digital Cinema Initiatives, a joint venture between major film studios, recommends that commercial theaters project their films at a minimum of 14 footlamberts, a standard of brightness roughly equivalent to the amount of light that would be produced by 48 wax candles per square meter of screen space. One maintenance technician, who asked for anonymity while criticizing the theaters that employ him, told me that some places with old Sonys are getting as few as six footlamberts.

    Another contributor to muddy pictures is worn-out light bulbs. Projector bulbs are supposed to be used for only a certain number of hours, typically between 1,000 and 5,000 based on their wattage. But since a single one can cost around $1,500, plenty of theaters push them past their expected lifespans. “A xenon bulb will darken over time because it builds up soot on the inside of the glass,” says Theakston. “The projector will actually tell you how long a bulb has been in there. I’ll walk into a booth and see flashing red lights on the back of a projector — Oh, yep, this one is a few hundred hours past expiration — but they’ll just run it until it burns out.” Replacing a bulb is “a 15-minute procedure,” Theakston says. “But it takes skill because those bulbs are highly pressurized, and if they break, they’ll explode.”

    Even when used as intended, 3-D filters like the one at Ant-Man can darken a movie to four footlamberts. Theaters will often compensate by installing high-gain screens with silver coatings, which reflect more light than standard matte white. Depending on where you’re sitting, though, results will vary. These screens appear most luminous to viewers in middle sections, but if you’re watching from the side, the picture may be only half as bright. (By the way, none of these dimness problems are helped by the fact that films themselves have been getting darker lately.)

    I call up a few other projectionists who are not only willing but elated to share their own extremely specific gripes about the ways movies are shown these days. But most of them seemed to agree that everything really went to hell when multiplexes quit masking — the term for hiding the borders of a screen so that the projected image fills the whole area. “I just get so furious when the masking is off,” says Gregory Wolfe, who’s been projecting at Lincoln Center the past 30 years.

    Technically, a lack of masking is a presentation issue — a sign that a theater no longer cares — but it can lead to projection problems, too. Cinemas generally show movies in one of two aspect ratios, the taller Flat (1.85:1) or its wider cousin Scope (2.39:1). Until a few years ago, motorized curtains were deployed to cover the unused screen space on the sides (for Flat) or top and bottom (for Scope). But some curtainless cinemas will let their pictures spill over the edges or adjust their projectors to crop the movies themselves, which costs viewers both light and resolution. “You’d probably only notice this if they put a test pattern on the screen,” says the maintenance tech, though it can be worse for movies with nontraditional aspect ratios. “Sometimes the end titles get cut off on the sides.”

    “And those curtains weren’t just for masking,” says Theakston. “They were also to protect your screen. At the end of the night, when the cleanup crews come into these multiplexes, they bring in leaf blowers and just blow everything down. That’s why you’ll see little flecks of popcorn covering the screen. And you can’t spot-clean a screen. If you try, you’ll have one pristine spot making the rest look even dingier.”

    But since most audience members don’t know how bright a picture is supposed to be, what masking is, or how to speak up if something is amiss, even simple issues can fester. “I’ve seen dead bugs on the port glass that create shadows big enough to make an entire image darker,” says Genevieve Havemeyer-King, a projectionist and a senior digital-collection specialist at the Library of Congress. “You just clean the glass and everything looks fine again.”

    In recent years, a backlash to digital and automated projection has created a flourishing niche market for old-fashioned film. Specialty theaters such as the Nitehawk, Quad, Metrograph, and Roxy in New York, the New Beverly in Los Angeles, and Alamo Drafthouses nationwide tout their 35-mm. projectors in their marketing. But most projectionists I spoke to were media agnostic and told me that, with proper care, digital can look just as good as celluloid — or sometimes better, since even film isn’t what it used to be. “I did a 70-mm. run of Licorice Pizza at Lincoln Square,” Theakston says, “and none of those recent 70-mm. prints look like the old 70-mm. prints did. They’re all very sloppy. It’s a cheap ploy to upcharge for tickets.”

    To its credit, AMC is at least doing something. The chain recently announced plans to install laser projectors, made by the Belgian audiovisual company Barco, in 3,500 of its U.S. theaters by 2026. These machines offer better brightness, colors, and contrast than standard digital projectors. They’re also bulb free and can run for 20,000 hours before their light systems need replacing. (Both AMC and Regal already use them for Imax and other premium screenings.) But laser projectors are still vulnerable to errors of neglect — i.e., dead bugs and misapplied 3-D lenses — and can introduce problems of their own, including a tendency toward green and magenta highlights. Also “when you use a laser projector with a high-gain screen, there’s this thing called speckling, where the picture looks like it’s shimmering,” says the maintenance tech. “It’s like when you drive on the highway and look at the road ahead and see something that looks like water but it’s not water.”

    But by 2026, many of today’s moviegoers may have permanently converted to watching at home. Why should they bother going to a multiplex anymore, even one with laser projectors, when a new 55-inch 4K television can suddenly be had for under $400? Watching a film in your living room may never match the experience of seeing it in a great theater with well-maintained equipment, but modern televisions can consistently deliver better images than the average run-down movie house. LED displays have gotten so good and so cheap that there’s even been talk of theaters replacing their screens with them.

    One reason for the lack of urgency in resolving the projection crisis could be that the people who make movies see them differently than we do. Before industry screenings for members of the directors and writers guilds, an army of technicians attends to every projector, bulb, and screen to ensure that films look perfect. Meanwhile, the loudest proponents of the theater experience — Nolan, Scorsese, Spielberg, Tarantino — have custom-built cinemas in their homes that surpass any of the fleapits where you or I can see Tenet or The Fabelmans. (The Wall Street Journal describes one such sanctuary: “In his 1940s Art Deco-styled screening room, with frosted-glass sconces, cherry-wood ribbing and fluted bronze panels, Mr. Spielberg sits in the back, on the highest tier of the stadium seats, directing the entire experience with his remote.”)

    To demonstrate how the other half watches, Theakston takes me to the private state-of-the-art cinema where he works, the Dolby 88 Screening Room on 55th Street, home to a pair of hulking Christie Eclipse E3LH high-dynamic-range laser projectors. I grab a seat near the center of the room, and Top Gun: Maverick fills the screen. As Tom Cruise saves the Air Force’s hypersonic-scramjet program by destroying an aircraft at Mach 10, Theakston hollers over the Dolby Atmos surround sound, “We get 32 footlamberts in here!” My corneas can feel the difference.​
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  • James Gardiner
    Expert Film Handler
    • Nov 2021
    • 500
    • Melbourne, Australia

    #2
    Propaganda. In general, Digital has resulted in a massive improvement on picture quality. "In general".
    I saw a lot more poorer results before digital became the norm. Digital can also look bad, but it takes more effort to get there.
    I am more likely to notice, subconsciously that. Why is the picture swaying and has random blemishes on it. as we are used to the solid picture of a digital projector. This is more likely to distract me negatively these days. A narrow section of movie buffs like this analog effect. I emphasise the word "narrow".
    Brightness wise, as digital projectors limited what lamps you can install, typically forcing you to use the correct ones to archive the brightness as intended on installation. Digital projectors tends to be brighter than film projectors as its harder to bend the rules.
    HOWEVER, yes, with 12+ year old light engines, some in poor environments, or just in general, developing dust build up, losing up to 20% or what they once could do. Yes, some locations are looking dim.
    But that's not because of poor efforts by cinemas, its more likely lack of funds to upgrade the projectors now way past their expected hours of services.
    Its more to do with poor attendance levels and questionable viability for another 10 years. As a projector purchase is a 10 year investment plus. Unless you are absolutely sure you are going to do that 10 years. You keep what you have until it either stops, or conditions get better and you are in a position to purchase a new projector.

    Giving those cinema owners a bad time for the economic situation they are in, which is out of their control. Is bad form.

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    • Stefan Scholz
      Pro Film Handler
      • Jan 2020
      • 298
      • Berlin Germany

      #3
      Interesting, there are still some places using these infamous dual lenses on a lower to mid power legacy digital projector. And then, for 2D not even daring to remove the 3D lens and insert the 2D 4K lens.
      I actually thought, it is a thing of the past.
      My last movie experience included Wicked For Good, at the starting weekend's Friday. It was interesting to see, the biggest start of the week, and the friend and I among 10 to 15 patrons wanting to see this prime time event. In a theatre, that, after refurbishment and installation of a few rows reclining faux leather seats, still holds around 1000 patrons, and is the largest room in the city.
      Actually they also changed for a new Laser RGB projector, now promising "crystal clear images, improved colors and best sound". They didn't change the screen, which to a certain extent I can understand, 68 feet wide is costly, if you are into High end 3 D surfaces, the Spectral 240 0r 300 by Harkness had to stay.
      Ab no exit doors next to the screen, like in most others, plus dimmed exit and stair lighting
      The slight curvature made an ok image in our center seat, the hotspot somewhat acceptable. But using RGB Laser on such foil, the speckle wasn't acceptable. On the other hand, for the first time I've been in this auditorium, the image had good brightness. Contrast wasn't great, yes, oK in most scenes, cross reflections and High Brightness lens are not provide the best capabilities here. With a single SP4k-40 you can't ask for more. It's ok.
      The room and bathrooms were clean, even though it's not been the first show of the day.
      Still, an all ok evening out. I have to see the price in relation to what I got. At around 8.25 dollars, including a surcharge for overtime, I have been asking myself, how they manage to run the operation.
      There's a surcharge for the premium seats, and a third price category on the rear of the room.


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      • Randy Stankey
        Film God
        • Jan 2020
        • 1388
        • Erie, PA, USA

        #4
        Propaganda or not, movie theaters are dying.

        People just don't LIKE movie theaters, anymore. They don't want to go to theaters. Going out to watch a movie is no longer part of our culture. People want to binge watch a TV series then go to work the next day and talk about it, around the water cooler, so to speak. The one-off nature of movie theaters doesn't fit with the way people consume entertainment, anymore.

        Add to that, all the things said in the article, dim screens, no masking, uncalibrated sound systems, dirty floors, surly staff and expensive prices. Neither to people want to sit in a dark room with a bunch of strangers. The whole paradigm of movie theaters is anachronistic! People just don't want it, anymore.

        I was talking to my girlfriend's father, the producer, before he passed away. I said that I wished I could go back to working in theaters. Without missing a beat, he immediately said, "You're better off doing something else!" If the guy who created "The Outlaw Josey Wales" says that movie theaters are dead, I tend to believe it.

        I would not be surprised if movie theaters died out, altogether, within my lifetime.

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        • Jim Cassedy
          Film God
          • Jan 2020
          • 1450
          • San Francisco

          #5
          I've read this before. It makes some valid points, and contains a few inaccuracies, but it's still worth
          re-reading. We replaced all of our SONY projectors and servers earlier this year. Prior to that, in
          our largest auditorium, we used dual SONY SRX-515 projectors for both 2D and 3D shows, mostly
          to get extra light on the big screen. I was never too fond of the Sonys, although by the time I started
          working with them, they were already a decade old, and were starting to show their age. Brightness
          was never a problem. My main issue with them was that in my opinion their mercury-discharge bulbs,
          (all 12 of them!) always gave a slight bluish/aquamarine color shift, and some color fringing at the
          extreme edges (which we usually managed to hide in the masking). Our service tech did the best he
          could to keep them calibrated, but there was only so much he could do with the aging hardware. As
          for 3D, I think our 3D picture was pretty good, mostly because of using a two projectors each projecting
          a discrete left or right image. Because we had dual projectors, I never had to deal with attempting to
          change the lenses. It wasn't until we were junking the system that I actually got to handle one of the
          SONY lenses. Crap! Those things were HEAVY - - I weighed one at just over 30lbs, and they had an
          obscure center of gravity, which made them tricky to handle. Also, given the limited space between
          the projector and front wall here, it definitely would have taken two people to do a lens change. Now
          I understand (but I don't excuse) why many venues balked at taking those SONY 3D lenses in & out.
          For 3D, we had two large filters that had to be manually slid into place for 3D shows. There was no
          way to automate them. If I wasn't around, another staff member couldn't always be relied on to move
          the 3D filters in and out of position if there were mixed 2D and 3D shows on any given day. and, quite
          frankly, it wasn't really their job. I know of at least one occasion when I wasn't there where all the
          shows were run with the 3D filters in place for over a week.

          The old dual-Sony set up. Note the 3D filters in frames that had to be moved if running 3D
          DualSonyProjs.jpg

          The old Sony lenses, prior to being scrapped. I weighed these and I think they were just
          over 30lbs each. I should have kept one as a door stop or something. (To go with my
          Arriflex camera and CP-650 door stops that have been pictured i previous posts
          )

          OldSonyLenses.jpg

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          • Mark Gulbrandsen
            Film God
            • Jan 2020
            • 3093
            • Nashville, TN

            #6
            At the near by AMC, they built about 6 years ago, they moved the old Sony junk from the closed down location a couple miles down the street. They didn't even bother to get the correct lenses and several of the theaters didn't even fill the screen, including the big house. Now they installed a Dolby Vision system, I assume in the large house. I've seen Dolby Vision several times else where, MEH, I'm sorry, but humans don't see in HDR. So much for that! They can come out with all the gimmicks they want to, but attendance is still dropping, and will continue to do so. And for the reasons that Randy gave in his post above. Am glad I retired when I did... just before Laser emerged. June next year we are going hiking in the Dolomite's. Phooey with what is turning out to be a dying industry in this country. Not even VistaVision or 70mm is gonna save it!
            Last edited by Mark Gulbrandsen; 11-24-2025, 02:22 PM.

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            • Mark Gulbrandsen
              Film God
              • Jan 2020
              • 3093
              • Nashville, TN

              #7
              I just ran into this piece in a group on FB about Martin Scorsese, and I think he nails it!


              Why Martin Scorsese No Longer Goes To Theaters...

              The legendary director, once a faithful disciple of the big screen, has withdrawn from public screenings entirely. The reason is not age, not cynicism, but the collapse of silence.

              In a recent conversation with veteran critic and longtime friend Peter Travers, Scorsese revealed his private sorrow: the sacred space of the cinema has been vandalized—not with graffiti, but with glowing phones, mindless chatter, and a public now more in love with distraction than with dreams.

              Travers recalls the exchange: “Come on, Marty, we couldn’t keep our mouths shut when we were kids.”
              Scorsese, eyes shadowed by memory, responded, “Yeah, maybe. But when we talked, it was about the movie—about the joy of dissecting it, frame by frame.”

              That reverence has vanished.

              Now, the theater is a battlefield of broken concentration. Soda barrels slosh like oil drums. iPhones blaze like distress flares in a storm. Audience etiquette, once an unspoken pact, has decayed into oblivion. For a man who holds cinema as sacred scripture, each interruption is not just rude—it is a form of blasphemy.

              And so, like a monk retreating to his cell, Scorsese has created his own sanctuary. His New York townhouse hides multiple screening rooms, each lined with film relics and vintage posters—a personal temple where he watches in peace. Here, he praises the likes of TÁR, Nosferatu, Pearl, Hereditary, and I Saw the TV Glow, not as passing diversions but as liturgical texts.

              Alfred Hitchcock might call it a new kind of suspense: not “will the killer strike,” but “will the man behind you shut off his phone?”

              And Nabokov might murmur, “We no longer attend the performance—we scroll past it.”

              Cinema, for Scorsese, is not content. It is not background. It is not ambient noise. It is the beating heart of a life spent asking, watching, cutting, shaping. And that heart needs quiet. It needs darkness. It needs submission.

              But today, audiences cannot submit. Attention spans crack like cheap reels. Halfway through a film, fingers twitch. Eyes wander. The story—so painstakingly composed—becomes mere wallpaper to the buzz of the outside world.

              So Scorsese no longer gambles with the roulette of the multiplex. He watches alone, not in bitterness, but in mourning.

              He has not abandoned cinema.
              He has abandoned us.

              ​

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              • Ed Gordon
                Pro Film Handler
                • Jan 2020
                • 365
                • Seattle, WA, USA

                #8
                Originally posted by Mark Gulbrandsen
                ...MEH, I'm sorry, but humans don't see in HDR. So much for that! They can come out with all the gimmicks they want to, but attendance is still dropping, and will continue to do so. ...
                ...A decade ago, matching the performance and aesthetic of 35mm film was the “Holy Grail” of digital cinema. We have now met and surpassed the challenges laid down at the birth of digital cinema, matching 35mm emulsion technically, if not also in almost every other way. We are now far more concerned with the nuances of digital color science than arguing over film vs. digital. That battle has been won and, for the most part, the result is universally accepted.

                So, what’s next for digital cinema? And how much of it is commercially driven by the need to sell new TVs and consumer gadgets rather than by a meaningful improvement of the visual experience? Perhaps more than we’d like to think....

                ...What you are seeing, however, is a constantly updated construct processed in your brain rather than the exact “real” projected image your eyes are seeing. You are perceiving a computationally constructed reality all the time, something far more complex and nuanced than a camera recording the entirety of an image focussed on an image sensor at a fixed, uniform pixel density and frame rate.

                This is why your eye moves to scan your screen as you read this: for you to stop and again see full detail on another part of the screen you have to move your eyes to read it again. You are aware of the rest of the text and the overall layout and spatial position of everything else in your field of view, but to actually read the text you have to physically move your eyes.

                A moving image on a screen is an illusion. It is a trick that our brain perceives as a fluid moving image. We should be careful not to break the illusion, which is more fragile than you might think.​..
                ​
                Source: https://www.cined.com/exploring-limi...ution-hdr-hfr/

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                • Ed Gordon
                  Pro Film Handler
                  • Jan 2020
                  • 365
                  • Seattle, WA, USA

                  #9
                  Bad audience behavior is keeping Martin Scorsese out of movie theaters. Is the problem in movie theaters due to failure to address bad behavior? Is it too late to close that barn door in movie theaters? It is not accepted in live performances, but are movie theater managers willing to piss off a dwindling audience?

                  Back in 2009, Hugh Jackman, who, in 2009 stopped a performance of A Steady Rain to address an audience member whose phone was ringing. Jackman stopped the scene with Daniel Craig and said: 'You want to get that? You want to get it? Grab it. I don't care.'

                  The audience can be heard cheering at his comments, and he continued, 'Come on, just turn it off... Unless you've got a better story. You want to get up and tell your stories?' Yikes!​
                  When Sherlock star Benedict Cumberbatch was portraying Hamlet in 2015, he also had a run-in with technology in the audience.

                  He politely pleaded with the audience: 'I can see cameras in the auditorium. It may not be any of you here, but it's blindingly obvious. It's mortifying and there's nothing that's less supportive or enjoyable as an actor on stage experiencing that.’
                  ​
                  While Benedict Cumberbatch politely alterted his audience to their poor manners, Richard Griffiths, however, wasn’t quite as patient.

                  The late, great actor (who was known for playing Uncle Vernon in Harry Potter among other things) brought up the legality of being on your phone during a performance on more than one occasion.

                  During a performance of The History Boys in 2006, he threatened to stop the show altogether due to multiple phone rings.

                  He said: 'You should be ashamed of yourselves. I am not going to compete with these electronic devices. You were told to turn them off by the stage manager, you were told it was against the law.

                  'We're going to start this scene again. If we hear one more phone go off, we'll... quit this afternoon's performance. You have been warned.'

                  This came a year after he asked a woman to leave when her phone rang during a performance at the Wyndham Theatre, adding: 'The 750 people here would be fully justified in suing you for ruining their afternoon.'​
                  Source: https://geekireland.com/actors-stopp...-to-audiences/

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                  • Marcel Birgelen
                    Film God
                    • Jan 2020
                    • 3619
                    • Maastricht, NL

                    #10
                    There always have been crappy cinemas. Your AMC is like your local McDonald's... come at the right time and place and have a good experience, come at another time and maybe other place and the food is lukewarm, the coke is watery, the fries aren't salted, the burger looks like it had a bad love affair with a forklift and the entire place looks and feels like a daycare where the workers have fled the premises...

                    But honestly, what's keeping me from going to the cinema isn't so much the AMC experience, it's simply the lack of movies I want to see... And no, I'm not going to pay for slop that barely qualifies Netflix's quality standards.

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                    • Mark Gulbrandsen
                      Film God
                      • Jan 2020
                      • 3093
                      • Nashville, TN

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Ed Gordon
                      You overlook the fact that both film and digital can look very real with out gimmicks. HDR not so true. It tends to exaggerate. If you used HDR so things look normal, then why have HDR? Now I can see HDR being used for a certain look,on certain movies, but that is about it...

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                      • Ryan Gallagher
                        Film God
                        • Nov 2022
                        • 2855
                        • Austin, Texas, USA

                        #12
                        Regarding the OP article. I have very little time to see films in cinemas so don't have many direct complaints for any other than the one I'm working in. The problem is multi-faceted and is far more than just presentation quality, as the other replies and articles also address.

                        But I can easily see that laundry list of gotchya's catching out chains with no projectionists and leading to sub-par experiences until enough people complain, some of it being fixable like filters left in or lamps over aged, but some of it not so fixable like improper lenses or masking for the film.

                        Even if it was a hit piece of propaganda designed to shame cinemas into doing better, I did like that the author took a reasonable "authority" along with them to point out all the flaws, 50% of which most audience goers would not even realize something is wrong.

                        They didn't even touch on Audio either, which can be all over the shop volume, tuning, and maintenance wise.

                        What is funny is the place we might be headed eventually, with the eventual demise of the cinema-plex and chains. If Studios want movies to still be seen in cinemas outside of screening rooms and VIP homes, they are going to have to start operating their own cinemas again, full circle folks. We are sort of already seeing this with Sony acquiring Alamo. How long before there is a glass enclosed "Fruit Company" flagship Cinema? (And not the "Apple Cinemas" of yore).

                        If the studios don't step up, the last cinemas standing may in fact be the independent mixed use art houses and university attached ones, if they can manage to keep their organizations and equipment working within their budgets. Eventually even the DCI market for projectors may collapse, leaving venues running on fumes, or only showing back catalog blu-rays/streams on non-DCI event type projectors. Or on "film" only with projectors of a similar vintage. Full circle again?
                        Last edited by Ryan Gallagher; 11-24-2025, 09:13 PM.

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                        • James Gardiner
                          Expert Film Handler
                          • Nov 2021
                          • 500
                          • Melbourne, Australia

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Mark Gulbrandsen

                          You overlook the fact that both film and digital can look very real with out gimmicks. HDR not so true. It tends to exaggerate. If you used HDR so things look normal, then why have HDR? Now I can see HDR being used for a certain look,on certain movies, but that is about it...
                          I’d have to disagree. HDR in the home — going from 100 nits SDR to 700–1000+ nits HDR — was a major quality leap, and it’s now so standard that you can’t even buy a non-HDR television anymore. It was a big deal for consumers, and the industry moved accordingly.

                          For digital cinema, the improvement is even more dramatic. We’re talking about a shift from roughly 0.01 → 48 nits in standard DCI to around 0.001 → 300 nits with Barco’s HDR. Both minimum black levels and peak brightness see massive gains, which translates to far higher contrast ratios.

                          And since perceived sharpness is fundamentally a function of contrast, the jump in dynamic range significantly improves the overall image clarity and realism. Far from being a gimmick, cinema-grade HDR meaningfully enhances the visual experience in ways standard SDR simply can’t match.
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                          • Marco Giustini
                            Film God
                            • Jan 2020
                            • 1169
                            • Reading, UK

                            #14
                            If you have an OLED at home, going to a SDR cinema will feel like watching a broken TV I'm afraid.

                            The cinemas I am seeing these days are smelly, dirty, uncomfortable. Most of the times there is some major issue with either projection or sound - or both.

                            A couple of decades ago cinemas were not much better but going to the cinema was AN EVENT. TVs at home were small. Sound at home was "small". Content would be released to home videos many months after the cinema release and it would take a couple of YEARS to have it on TV. And it was SD anyways, maybe VHS on a 22" TV.

                            Sitting down in a large auditorium - such as the ones available back then - with a large screen in front of you was an event even if the projection was not 100%

                            This is now completely lost, IMHO.

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                            • Leo Enticknap
                              Film God
                              • Jan 2020
                              • 3572
                              • Loma Linda, CA

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Randy Stankey
                              I would not be surprised if movie theaters died out, altogether, within my lifetime.
                              I'd be surprised if they died out completely, but I'd be less surprised if they became like attending live opera or (professional) sports: a niche interest and very pricey leisure activity that is only done by a small minority of consumers, and which only supports two or three venues in major city, if that.

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