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Author Topic: Movies featuring theatres Hugh McCullough Expert Film Handler Posts: 147 From: Old Coulsdon, Surrey, UK Registered: Jan 2003 posted 10-06-2004 07:33 AM                        I assume that Peter is talking about 'The Smallest Show on Earth' The interior of the Grand cinema was the Odeon Richmond, Surrey. The exterior of the Bijou was a mockup, but I do not know where this was. The Bijou interior was a studio set. If you see the film please notice that the projectors have no rake, but the projection beam shines down at an raked angle onto the screen.  |  IP: Logged Stephen Furley Film God Posts: 3059 From: Coulsdon, Croydon, England Registered: May 2002 posted 10-06-2004 07:55 AM                     quote: Hugh McCullough The exterior of the Bijou was a mockup, but I do not know where this was. Between the two Metropolitian Railway bridges at Kilburn, London. The projectors in the film were real Kalee front shutter machines, (8s? I'm not sure. The projection room was a studio set. When the Museum of the Moving Image in London was open there was a still of these machines on display in the large window in the rear wall of the projection room. The that time the MOMI cinema was equipped with DP-70s Ex. Drake Cinema, Plymouth, from 1958. this means that the projectors in 'The Smallest Show on Earth', which were supposed to look ancient, were younger when the film was made, than the DP-70s which could be seen through the window in use at MOMI were at that time. The DP-70s still looked quite modern. After MOMI closed its cinema became NFT3, and the DP-70s were replaced by VIC 8s. quote: The mocked exterior and foyer shots, was the WARNER VILLAGE 8 screen multiplex in Finchley Road, London. The interior auditorium shots which included a newsreel on the screen in the correct 1.33:1 ratio, was the PHOENIX (ex Rex) East Finchley, London. The Phoenix has been used in several films and television productions, including one of the Michael Palin series I believe. There was a rather obscure film made about twenty years ago called 'Mr. Love', about a projectionist. The projection room scenes were shot in the real box at the Phoenix, at that time equipped with a pair of Westars with 6k spoolboxes and Peerless arcs. Peter instructed the actor who played the lead role in operating the equipment. The cinema ran the film one weekend a couple of years ago. [ 10-06-2004, 04:10 PM: Message edited by: Stephen Furley ]  |  IP: Logged Leo Enticknap Film God Posts: 7474 From: Loma Linda, CA Registered: Jul 2000 posted 10-06-2004 05:48 PM                        Apologies if anyone's mentioned these. For a mention of what John Cleese called the bleedin' obvious - the Radio City Music Hall in the original King Kong. And, being a very predictable archivist who only likes films that no-one else has heard of, Shooting Stars (UK 1927) has a very ironic scene in which the husband of a film star who is having an affair with his bitter rival visits what is portrayed as a typical West End cinema in London, and sees the film in which his wife stars. I don't know what cinema the scene was shot in (could have been a studio set I guess), but if authentic that scene must offer a pretty unique glimpse of a typical auditorium during the late silent period. The National Film & Television Archive has 50 feet or so showing the exterior of the Regent St. Polytechnic in March 1896, complete with banners advertising the Lumière Cinématogràphe show and horse-drawn carriages passing in the foreground. I think I'm safe in speculating that this is the earliest Brtish film featuring a theatre to survive!  |  IP: Logged Hugh McCullough Expert Film Handler Posts: 147 From: Old Coulsdon, Surrey, UK Registered: Jan 2003 posted 10-06-2004 06:09 PM                        quote: Stephen Furley The projectors in the film were real Kalee front shutter machines, (8s? I'm not sure. Many years ago a retired Kalee engineer told me that the machines were Kalee7s.  |  IP: Logged William Hooper Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1879 From: Mobile, AL USA Registered: Jun 99 posted 10-07-2004 01:10 AM                        How could I forget: Scenes from RAY were shot in the New Orleans Saenger http://www.saengertheatre.com/gallery_ray.htm With the State Palace across the street in Frankenstein, that's two New Orleans theatres in two movies in the same month, one on TV & one theatrical; that's got to be some statsistically significant event. I've heard that the Pine Bluff Saenger is in the movie THE TOWN THAT DREADED SUNDOWN, but I've never seen it.  |  IP: Logged Stephen Furley Film God Posts: 3059 From: Coulsdon, Croydon, England Registered: May 2002 posted 10-07-2004 07:35 AM                     quote: Hugh McCullough Many years ago a retired Kalee engineer told me that the machines were Kalee7s. Thanks Hugh, I'm not too good on machines that old; I can recognise most Kalee projectors back as far as the 12. Interestingly, just a few hundred metres from the site where the mock facade of the Bijou was built, and clearly visible from a passing train is the square tower of the Gaumont State, the largest purpose-built cinema ever constructed in Britain, having 4004 seats as originally built. I wonder why they didn't use that for the Grand, rather than Hammersmith and Richmond. It has been a Bingo hall for many years now, but still has its organ. For a while a small cinema was operated in another part of the building, reached through a side entrance, but this didn't last long. We have almost none of the '30s super cinemas still functioning over here, though some do still survive in other uses, though these have oftern been much altered. There were many smaller cinemas built in 1910-11, mainly due to the new safety requirements of the Cinematograph Act of 1909. These places were something like the 'Bijou' in the film. They started a long decline when the larger super cinemas were built in the late '20s and early '30s. By the '70s few survived, and those that did were generally in a poor state. In the last twenty years or so things have ghanged, the super cinemas have gone, but many of the surviving older, smaller ones have been restored and are still operating, mainly as art house venues. The Phoenix East Finchley which was mentioned elswhere in this thread, the Electric Portobello Road, the Ritzy Brixton and the Electric Palace Harwich are typical examples. The architecture which can be seen on their web sites is very typical of the period, and these sort of places are often used as film and television locations. Phoenix, East Finchley Electric, Portobello Road Rity, Brixton Electric Palace, Harwich  |  IP: Logged Peter Hall Master Film Handler Posts: 314 From: London, UK Registered: Dec 2000 posted 10-07-2004 08:07 AM                        Hugh Apolagies if the Grand was in fact the Odeon Richmond - I was told that it was Hammersmith by (sadly, the late) Richard Greville-Smith, who was chief at Hammersmith for a while. Early Kalee 8s had front shutters - the ones in the Orpheus Auckland NZ still had the shafts and bosses attached - I guess there was a retrofit kit ?  |  IP: Logged Stephen Furley Film God Posts: 3059 From: Coulsdon, Croydon, England Registered: May 2002 posted 10-07-2004 08:46 AM                     Peter, the 'Grand' was both places, the outside of one, and the auditorium of the other.  |  IP: Logged Hugh McCullough Expert Film Handler Posts: 147 From: Old Coulsdon, Surrey, UK Registered: Jan 2003 posted 10-07-2004 11:53 AM                        quote: Peter Hall I was told that it was Hammersmith by (sadly, the late) Richard Greville-Smith Was this the same Richard Smith who was Chief of the Odeon Leicester Sq before me. I never knew his full name. Everybody just called him Richard (not Dick) Smith.  |  IP: Logged Tommie Evans Expert Film Handler Posts: 116 From: Birmingham, West Midlands, UK Registered: Sep 2004 posted 10-07-2004 02:04 PM                     'Things to do in Denver when your Dead' Guy gets shot in the 'porn' booth while eating noodles on his make-up bench. He goes flying into the projector and the movie melts on screen - its a reel to reel theatre!  |  IP: Logged Jeremy Fuentes Mmmm, Dr. Pepper! Posts: 1168 From: Corpus Christi, TX United States Registered: Jan 2004 posted 10-07-2004 02:08 PM                     Bulletproof Monk had a theater in it. Sean William Scott played the projectionist who showed up late to work and missed the reel change. He must have been a union projectionist.  |  IP: Logged Adam Wilbert Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 590 From: Bellingham, WA, USA Registered: Mar 2002 posted 10-07-2004 04:56 PM                        Wait, the shift change was scheduled to fall between reels? And the outgoing projectionist left without the other being there? Thats awesome.  |  IP: Logged Peter Hall Master Film Handler Posts: 314 From: London, UK Registered: Dec 2000 posted 10-08-2004 01:11 PM                        Hi Richard Perhaps he was at the OLS - not sure really, but I know he was with Odeon for years.. He would be around 60 by now, he died about a year ago. I didn't know that you were chief at the Odeon - top job - so Richard was there b4 you, did Nigel follow you ? Maybe another thread - those who have had arguaby the top job in London ????  |  IP: Logged Jonathan M. Crist Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 531 From: Hershey, PA, USA Registered: Apr 2000 posted 10-08-2004 01:30 PM                     Does anyone know anything about the "American" Theatre which was featured in the Notebook?  |  IP: Logged Ron Keillor Expert Film Handler Posts: 166 From: Vancouver, B.C. Canada Registered: Jul 2003 posted 10-08-2004 03:02 PM                     a few more titles to add to the list for the benefit of trivia collectors British: Brief Encounter (David Lean version, with the ladies trio in the orchestra pit); East Is East (Bradford location - manager switches film in progress to accommodate visiting relatives) Hong Kong: Infernal Affairs (short interior for characters to exchange documents); Last Ghost Standing (booth and auditorium) American: Captain Celluloid and the Film Pirates (amateur short, with William K. Everson and Forrest J. Ackerman) Diner short interior sequence; The Owl and the Pussycat used the New Yorker Theatre on Bleeker Street NYC for the sequence where George Segal goes to see (Streisand's) CYCLE SLUTS. Real-life manager Stan Gottlieb to Segal: Check your raincoat? - Don't have one - Wanna rent one? Canada: The Wolfpen Principle (low-budget 16mm production, Varsity Theatre, Vancouver, directed by Jack Darcus, starring Vladimir Valenta) China: Electric Shadows (outdoor presentation) USSR: Of Freaks and Men (store-front type of operation) France: Jour de Fête (itinerant tent presentation of a film on the superiority of the American postal system) [ 10-08-2004, 08:29 PM: Message edited by: Ron Keillor ]  |  IP: Logged

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