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Topic: All About Splices-some questions for you guys
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John Pytlak
Film God

Posts: 9987
From: Rochester, NY 14650-1922
Registered: Jan 2000
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posted 03-09-2000 07:43 PM
Dustin:Ideally, you should peel off the splices when you reattach the leaders, so there's no loss of continuity. But you are right, reality says that most prints see no more than a handful of theatres in their lifetime, so if each theatre cuts off a frame, you'll loose only a few tenths of a second of continuity even for the sub-, sub-, sub-run. If the act of peeling the splices damages the ends of the film or gets them dirty, as compared to making a simple cut on the splicer, I'd vote for loosing one frame. If you can find a tape that peels cleanly, but still produces reliable splices, peel the splice. ------------------ John P. Pytlak, Senior Technical Specialist Worldwide Technical Services, Professional Motion Imaging Eastman Kodak Company Research Labs, Building 69, Room 7419 Rochester, New York, 14650-1922 USA Tel: 716-477-5325 Fax: 716-722-7243 E-Mail: john.pytlak@kodak.com
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John Wilson
Film God

Posts: 5438
From: Sydney, Australia.
Registered: Dec 1999
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posted 03-10-2000 05:43 AM
Keep the splicing tape clear. You're trying to keep the presentation clear on screen. The patrons don't want to see your splicing tape. Splices are easy to find without that sort of garbage.I like splices to be made end to end, not overlapped at all. If they're done properly, the splice won't move on screen as it goes through the gate and if, as it seems it is now going to happen more often, there are no cues on the prints, you won't notice a thing on screen. All my houses are digital so even if there is a slight (there isn't) gap, it don't matter to me. Joe, contributed much to this forum you have. Learned some also, mmmm? But Jedi not yet are you.
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Ari Nordström
Master Film Handler

Posts: 283
From: Göteborg, Sweden
Registered: Jan 2000
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posted 03-10-2000 07:13 PM
>>"Ok, about this peeling business. My manager said he used to do that, but he hasn't encouraged any of us to do it. How important is it? Up until now I wouldn't have even considered it since the white tape won't peel worth a crap. But even now that I'm gonna start using clear is saving that one fram on the head and the one on the tail really that crucial? I mean, at most a print is going to get used three time right? Is losing two frames by the time when it gets to the third run really a disaster? Or is peeling off your tape to save a frame just going to far?"<< In my ever-so-humble opinion, it is crucial to save a frame, every time. It's a nasty habit to cut yet another frame because the projectionist won't take the time to peel off the tape. (It's an equally nasty habit to just cut right through the splice, btw, without removing the tape.)
This has got a lot to do with taking pride in what I do. I like to be able to say, "no, I didn't contribute to anything that would help destroy a print today", that's important to me, just as it is important to me to check the focus regularly, maintain Dolby levels at the theatre, and time the curtains so that the show will be a real show instead of just the outlet of some kind of film factory. As for using the white tape; we don't have it, and I'm glad we don't. Every time I get a print that contains splices made with that crap I get mad because it takes forever to save that frame (yes; I remove it and replace it with clear tape). It won't peel off at all, so the process is tedious and involves chemicals... Whatever tape is used, it should meet the following criteria: - It should peel off easily. - It should be strong enough not to break. - It should be invisible to the patrons. Not that I want to criticise others, but this tape splice thing is a pet peeve of mine.
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Dustin Mitchell
Phenomenal Film Handler

Posts: 1865
From: Mondovi, WI, USA
Registered: Mar 2000
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posted 03-10-2000 07:56 PM
>>This has got a lot to do with taking pride in what I do. I like to be able to say, "no, I didn't contribute to anything that would help destroy a print today", that's important to me, just as it is important to me to check the focus regularly, maintain Dolby levels at the theatre, and time the curtains so that the show will be a real show instead of just the outlet of some kind of film factory.<<I don't consider osing one frame off each end of a reel "contributing to its destruction." Considering that most prints end of being incinerated in the end, I don't think it really matters. I did try peeling tape today when I tore down Hurricane. The white of course wouldn't come off worth a damn, and the clear stuff we use (the film was half and half for some reason) doesn't peel all that well either. About white tape: I really don't uderstand how it is such a big annoyance. It only causes a momentary (1/24 of a second to be exact) flash on the screen. Considering most (almost all) reel changes coincide with scene changes in the film, most people don't even notice. I was an avid movie goer before I worked at the this theater, and I must say I never did. If it really matters to you guys that much, more power to you. I have way too many other things to do to lose sleep over white tape .
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