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John Wilson
Film God

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From: Sydney, Australia.
Registered: Dec 1999


 - posted 08-17-2001 08:08 AM      Profile for John Wilson   Email John Wilson   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Just what do you suggest is played before the IMAX 3D movie 'Alien Adventure' then Danny? They're there to have some fun for 40 minutes after all, not alter their life.

I asked a question (albeit a long time ago) and the guys have answered honestly. Most of them seem to not like the music they play, but are forced to play it by their head office. Others have a choice and play pre-show music they feel is appropriate.

I guess we can all be thankful that one day you will make a film which comes with its own pre-show music so it can promptly be filed in the appropriate place.

Me...? I'll run what I want with what I want...if that's ok with you, that is.

Geez...

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John Wilson
Film God

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Actually, we went through a change of management here a while back and were informed we could not play any other pre-show music except for IMAX movie soundtracks as they would not pay the royalties fee for any other music.

...now those were an exciting few months. The audience were just about asleep by the time they got to their seats.

Now they are discovering once again that it is, in fact, fun to stay at the Y.M.C.A.



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Mike Blakesley
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From: Forsyth, Montana
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On a whim, I went to that Kris Erik Stevens website and clicked on his trailer demonstration link... was surprised how many trailers he's done (and how he can actually sound a lot better than he does on the awful Movie Tunes).

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Bill Enos
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From: Richmond, Virginia, USA
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We play at our 20's theatre jazz, show tune, movie music etc. What about the ASCAP and BMI police. Do they still go out searching for businesses playing non royalty paid music?

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Steve Scott
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From: Minneapolis, MN
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We have Theater "Radio" Network CDs sent to us every month that have some fairly decent music from upcoming soundtracks. Unfortunately, it's also littered with ads for invention agencies and internet businesses. They used to have trivia contests that were unbelieveably easy to figure out, but they have since put a halt to those.

I could (and have) burned better mixes of music, but management loves to hear the announcer's voice say "Thank you for choosing OUR theater!" And who are we exactly?

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Ky Boyd
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From: Santa Rosa, CA, USA
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 - posted 08-20-2001 08:19 PM      Profile for Ky Boyd   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
We try to make the music match the movie at our theatre. Currently we've got Jill Solube (sp?) playing on Ghost World, Cyndi Lauper on Hedwig, a bluegrass CD on Songcatcher, the ever popular Ella Fitzgerald on The Closet, and the Crouching Tiger soundtrack on The Road Home. It's interesting that the cd we get the most comments on and that people inquire about is the Ella Fitzgerald. It's a pre-scat Ella CD that is a nice compilation of her songbook series. Every now and then we get some weird combination thing that happens when somebody moves a print and forgets to take the appropriate CD with it.

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Randy Stankey
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From: Erie, Pennsylvania
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 - posted 08-20-2001 09:07 PM      Profile for Randy Stankey   Email Randy Stankey   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I got an idea a while back:
Most of the theatres that I work in have muti-disc CD players but are only allowed to play the stupid MovieTunes® disk, thus leaving anywhere from 5 to 10 empty slots in the player. What a waste of money, eh?

Well, I was thinking that MovieTunes® could put out a disk that contains JUST the ads that they want to play for this month and maybe another disk that contains those songs that they want to push. Then the other slots in the disk could be filled up with whatever movie soundtrack CDs happen to be current. Then they could put the player on "spiral play" and hit the repeat button. (Spiral play is the mode that plays track #1 from disk #1, then plays track #1 from disk #2, etc, etc...)

Heck! There is usually about a 1/2 dozen of those things lying around the theatre anyway. Why not put them to good use, instead of them ending up on the floor in the back seat of some assistant manager's car.

The movie company get's their products pushed. The record company get's their products pushed. MovieTunes® gets to play their advertisements. And, WE don't have to listen to the same awful music all the damn time.
This way EVERYBODY would be happy. (Potentially.)

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Paul G. Thompson
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From: Mount Vernon WA USA
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 - posted 08-22-2001 04:12 PM      Profile for Paul G. Thompson   Email Paul G. Thompson   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
We play the local radio station.

Paul

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Freddie Dobbs
Expert Film Handler

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From: Pinson, AL, USA
Registered: Jun 2001


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I don't think anyone mentioned copywright laws, seems like Regal had a law suit a few years back...Anyone know anything about the Regal deal?

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Andy Muirhead
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From: Galashiels, Scotland
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I play whatever "I" want to play

We pay a yearly subs to PRS which means we can play what we want. Usually i'll tailor the tunes more to the customers than the movie, i.e if we have a film that has a more elderly crowd i'll play more laid back instrumentals, and if the crowd is mostly young i'll play contemporary stuff like indie and banging house. It just depends on the crowd.

Danny, playing stuff tailored to the film is all well and good but it's a bloody cliche, and anyway, whats the point setting a mood when it's going to get blasted away by 20mins of ads and trailers?

Fair point if your going straight into the film though.

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Randy Stankey
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I agree that copyright may be a problem but if you are going to be playing movie soundtrack disks for the movies that you are playing or are going to be playing soon, in MY opinion, you ought be be allowed to do that. Especially since the companies often send those CDs out to the theatres as promos anyway.

Then on top of that, you are still playing whatever ads your company wants you to play. I think everybody benefits from this.

If it's not allowed, I think it should be.

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Bernard Tonks
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From: Cranleigh, Surrey, England
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Back in the early 1980s apart from using LPs and cassettes, I used to record onto ¼” tape almost non-stop music from a pirate radio station anchored in the North Sea 20 miles off the UK coastline called Radio Caroline. During daytime the signal from the 300 foot mast (claimed to be the highest ever construction at sea) although AM was exceptional and almost FM quality. Edited cassette tapes were then made. A few years later Melody Radio a London FM stereo station became the source, but no longer as the name and programming has changed to more chat, a good station though. I don’t consider that I was breaking the law as the cinema has an annual Performing Rights Society licence for playing recorded music. CD tracks or selections are now made onto mini-disc.

Radio Caroline is broadcasting again by satellite, and the ship is now being refurbished. www.radiocaroline.co.uk


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Bob Maar
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You should all go out and buy a "John Phillips Sousa" CD and watch how fast you can empty and fill an auditorium.

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Freddie Dobbs
Expert Film Handler

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BOB, you kill me....... to funny.......

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Michael Gonzalez
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From: Grand Island , NE USA
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 - posted 08-24-2001 02:22 PM      Profile for Michael Gonzalez   Email Michael Gonzalez   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I also play movie sound tracks. I am currently running the Sixth Sense, The Rock and Brave Heart (a nice mix of styles and moods). The customers seem the enjoy them and often ask what CD's we are playing so that they can buy them.

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