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Stefan Scholz
Expert Film Handler

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From: Schoenberg, Germany
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 - posted 05-26-2000 05:39 AM      Profile for Stefan Scholz   Author's Homepage   Email Stefan Scholz   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Cool, now it gets clearer what the tiny points are.
It is worth watching the boys listening to Elvis, but some points are outside the picture area, at the fragment I looked at.
It's out there, and real, but will it change anything, now that we know?

John Pytlak
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The positions of the dots vary randomly throughout the print, to assure that any illegal video copy will contain the CAP Code multiple times, no matter what the format or framing. And additional methods of coding may also be used (for redundancy) on the same print.

Many convicted film pirates THOUGHT they removed all traces of CAP code from their illegal product.

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John P. Pytlak, Senior Technical Specialist
Worldwide Technical Services, Entertainment Imaging
Eastman Kodak Company
Research Labs, Building 69, Room 7419
Rochester, New York, 14650-1922 USA
Tel: 716-477-5325 Fax: 716-722-7243
E-Mail: john.pytlak@kodak.com

Joe Redifer
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What does "CAP" code stand for, anyway?

I assume the "AP" stand for Anti Piracy?

John Pytlak
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Coded Anti Piracy = CAP

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John P. Pytlak, Senior Technical Specialist
Worldwide Technical Services, Entertainment Imaging
Eastman Kodak Company
Research Labs, Building 69, Room 7419
Rochester, New York, 14650-1922 USA
Tel: 716-477-5325 Fax: 716-722-7243
E-Mail: john.pytlak@kodak.com

Gordon McLeod
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John when did your title change from motion pictures to "entertainment imaging" your not shifting to the digital side are you

John Pytlak
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The name "Entertainment Imaging" encompasses all methods of presenting images to audiences. But I'm still a "film guy". My job is to make film as good as we know it can be. Their job is to make digital cinema as good as film. (I think their job is more difficult than mine ).

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John P. Pytlak, Senior Technical Specialist
Worldwide Technical Services, Entertainment Imaging
Eastman Kodak Company
Research Labs, Building 69, Room 7419
Rochester, New York, 14650-1922 USA
Tel: 716-477-5325 Fax: 716-722-7243
E-Mail: john.pytlak@kodak.com

Joe Redifer
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Hey John, can you recommend a good digital camera? I don't want to deal with film cameras, because with digital I can have it on my desktop instantly! If I want a print version, I just print it out. If it fades, I'll print out another copy. I figured you'd be the resident expert on digital imaging

Paul Konen
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 - posted 05-31-2000 08:08 AM      Profile for Paul Konen   Email Paul Konen   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Thanks to Carl, you to will notice the dots appearing in your print.

I was building Big Momma's House and the depot or someone made a big to do out of reel 2 being Cap Coded. Reel # was written in big numbers, inspection label noted CapCode: 0 on label.

Sure enough, the number was printed on the edge just like the picture above. Most of the reel is dark but you will notice the white / brownish dots while watching the feature. I bet the scheme is like those binary clocks or message do-hickeys that use a row of 8 leds on a pendulum and swings back and forth to display a message. This same concept would display the reel number.

That's my take

John Pytlak
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Joe:

Information on all the Kodak digital still cameras is on the Kodak website:
http://www.kodak.com/go/digitalcamera

You can also check out the entire line of Kodak digital products at:
http://www.kodak.com/US/en/nav/digital.shtml

For a discerning photographer like you, I wouldn't settle for less than one of the cameras in the PRO DCS Series, with 6 megapixel resolution. (Of course 35 mm film still has superior image quality ).

Remember, Kodak's business is PICTURES. We try to offer the best products to meet customer's imaging needs, be they FILM or DIGITAL or HYBRID.

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John P. Pytlak, Senior Technical Specialist
Worldwide Technical Services, Entertainment Imaging
Eastman Kodak Company
Research Labs, Building 69, Room 7419
Rochester, New York, 14650-1922 USA
Tel: 716-477-5325 Fax: 716-722-7243
E-Mail: john.pytlak@kodak.com

Joe Redifer
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John,

Is the Photo CD spec of 3072 x 2048 as good as 35mm? I ask because if it's not, then why didn't Kodak make Photo CD as high res as 35mm? One of Kodak's main claims to fame on this now obsolete technology was that you could take your disc back in to the manufacturer an get perfect prints made from it, since it is basically just a digitized version of the negative turned positive.

I would settle for nothing less than 256 Terapixels! I think they sell those down at K-Mart for $199 (Kodak brand)


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Scott Norwood
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But what is film resolution? Kodachrome 25 is going to have higher resolution than Tmax 3200! (Yes, I'm comparing apples to oranges, but you get the idea.)

Personally, I love Kodachrome.

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Russ Kress
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Here's something to think about...

I still take pictures with film. If I need a digital image I just scan the print.

John, I checked my camera and it is loaded with Kodak film! (Sorry that I had to check, I'll be sure to buy only Kodak in the future). It was Gold asa 200.

Half of the fun of pictures is discovering what was on that roll of un-developed film that you found while cleaning out the car!

Russ

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John Pytlak
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Joe:
I recall that the Photo CD's highest resolution mode was equivalent to the resolution of 35mm film, within the limitations of the scanners available. The technology is definitely not "obsolete", and is still available for professional users. Information is at http://www.kodak.com/go/photoCD

Scott:
It seems everyone still loves the look of Kodachrome film. Pretty good for a product that has been on the market for 65 years! Of course, it's been improved many times since 1935.

Russ:
What you are doing is very common practice. The "HYBRID" practice of shooting on film, and then transferring the images to digital is very common. That way you're not having to invest in the fast-changing technology of a digital camera, yet have the ability to use the images digitally.

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John P. Pytlak, Senior Technical Specialist
Worldwide Technical Services, Entertainment Imaging
Eastman Kodak Company
Research Labs, Building 69, Room 7419
Rochester, New York, 14650-1922 USA
Tel: 716-477-5325 Fax: 716-722-7243
E-Mail: john.pytlak@kodak.com

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Brad Miller
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I just noticed this tonight and I thought it humorous.

We've all seen the stickers with the title, bar code, print number (um, yeah right), date/time of printing and so forth on them courtesy of Deluxe Hollywood as pictured below.

However, I noticed a little something odd on my second print of The Patriot. Check it out.


Yes folks, the first print had the annoying little CAP code marks on it...but the second one (noted by "capcode-0") did NOT!

What's up with that? Is this a courtesy toward bootleggers from Deluxe? I'm not getting the point here, but I find it awful funny.



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Joe Redifer
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What's also interesting is that the schmucks at Airborne Express (why does anybody ship with these people?) mixed up the cans between our theater and a UA theater about 5 miles down the road. We got their reels 1,2, and 3 and they got ours (we switched them back).

But what if we didn't switch? We could have been bootlegging film all night and giving out free copies to everybody on the planet, and the UA theater would have gotten blamed.

CAP Code rocks!


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