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Stephen Furley
Film God

Posts: 3059
From: Coulsdon, Croydon, England
Registered: May 2002
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posted 07-28-2002 07:16 PM
"Stephen: if you Return of the Jedi pirate DVD was a 4.7gb single sided/layer disc containing an entire feature, then the bitrate must be pretty low - between 4 and 5, I'd guess. That in itself must have made the picture look not much better than a camcorder job. I never encode below 8.0 VBR as I think you can really see the picture degradation, even on a portable telly or bogstandard S-VGA monitor. The most I've ever been able to get on a single disc was 82 minutes, and that was black-and-white."I have several DVDs of more than 82 minutes which are single layer. I don't know how long 'Return of the Jedi' is, I've never seen the film, apart from the few minutes which I watched on this disk. I only have a small television, but I would say that the quality was similar to laserdisc, and certainly better than VHS. My player can display the bit rate, but I didn't look to see what it was on this disk. I have just checked a few of my DVDs, and the bit rate seems to be typically about 6 or 7. These are all commercial releases, I have no exprerience of doing MPEG 2 encoding or DVD authoring myself. "If it was a pressed disc from a glass master rather than a DVD-R then these pirates must have made serious numbers of copies. There can't be that many DVD pressing plants in existence - surely Mr. Valenti's FBI friends would be able to identify the facility which manufactured it from evidence on the disc, and then pursue the matter through (international, if necessary) law." This was a pressed disk, and that's just the point I was making; a DVD pressing plant is not exactly something which somebody could set up in their bedroom. This is clearly large-scale commercial piracy, and I cannot understand how it happens. I couldn't walk into a any DVD production company in this country, and have them run off a few thousand copies of a major feature film for me. What happens in the Far East, are the pirates operating on such a large scale that they can set up their own production plants, or do the 'legitimate' plants not care, and are happy to do work for the pirates? Also, how can organisations openly advertise the sale of what are clearly pirate disks, on the internet. Surely it cannot be too difficult to put a stop to this sort of thing, at least the distribution in this country, if not the production overseas. If the industry is serious about putting a stop to piracy then they need to go after the people who are importing, and distributing this stuff on a large scale.
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Steven Gorsky
Expert Film Handler

Posts: 146
From: Frederick, MD, USA
Registered: Sep 2000
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posted 07-28-2002 07:42 PM
There are a few countries that don't follow copyright laws, and don't cooperate with shutting down pirates. Piracy of coarse thrives in these countries. Expensive pressing equipment doesn't seem to be uncommon, as they make a huge profit from the CDs and DVDs.One thing to look for is these discs are almost always region 0 (zero). Another thing is the copyright notice will generally have a poor english translation - sometimes with spelling errors. Now why these make it through customs I have no idea. Some vendors that sell them even claim they aren't bootlegs. Steven Gorsky
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Thomas Procyk
Phenomenal Film Handler

Posts: 1842
From: Royal Palm Beach, FL, USA
Registered: Feb 2002
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posted 07-28-2002 10:54 PM
I attended the sci-fi/anime/"geek" convention known as MegaCon in Orlando a while ago where Kevin Smith was the featured speaker. On the convention floor, there were several booths of individuals selling various videotapes, from legitimate commercial copies, to re-edits (such as Episode 1 with Jar Jar removed), to downright bootlegs of screeners!! Ironic enough, "Jay And Silent Bob Strike Back" which had not come out on video or DVD at the time, was readily available at these booths.During the question and answer period with Kevin Smith, someone asked how he felt about his film being readily available for sale downstairs before its release. He said that he wasn't worried about them hurting sales and whatnot, and that he even wouldn't mind autographing one of the bootleg copies if someone wanted. He ended by saying, "...the film made millions of dollars, so it doesn't really bother me that someone wants to make a few bucks on the side." He actually found it flattering that fans liked the film that much. Then you have someone like Lucas, when his low-definition mess of a movie was available in a choppy, 8-fps AVI file with the sound cutting out every 5 minutes a week before release, screaming and shouting that he will lose "Millions of Dollars" in opening weekend ticket sales.  =TMP=
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