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Joe Beres
Jedi Master Film Handler

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From: Minneapolis, MN, USA
Registered: Nov 2000

posted 10-25-2001 07:51 PM

I'm sure you just used that yellow tape that one time, when you unexpectedly ran out of clear tape, right? That's got to be the case, right?

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Paul Harnden
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From: Chandler, AZ, USA
Registered: Oct 2001

posted 10-25-2001 08:09 PM

In my opinion it matters on the manager.

Working up in Washington for Regal Cinemas, I've had to deal with numerous GM's. Some were very intelligent and professional and took on very quickly, while others were cocky and did more harm than good.

To me the M/O position is sort of a double-edged sword. On one hand it's nice to have someone around who can take a shift over in case of emergencies, yet on the other hand it's quite frustrating training someone whose believes he/she knows what they're doing yet later will mess something up.

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John Pytlak
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posted 10-25-2001 08:29 PM

Kristin: "Film Done Right" means the audience never seeing or hearing the splices. Can't do that with yellow tape. Maybe it's all you were given. But you're forgiven.

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John Pytlak
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posted 10-25-2001 08:35 PM

Joe said: "I prefer the white splicing tape with the four dots on it."

Are any labs still using that type of splice? AFAIK, that kind of tape splice is now only sometimes used on the rare occasion that the process machine operator fears the normal ultrasonic splice was made improperly, and will break in the processing machine unless remade. Normal lab splices on polyester print film are now almost always ultrasonic splices. (Now if we could always just get them to be on the frameline )

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Kristin Wahlund
Film Handler

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From: Eagan, MN
Registered: Jul 2001

posted 10-26-2001 11:53 PM

We used the yellow tape for marking reel changes for breakdown... It was a two dollar house anyhow..

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Bill Enos
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From: Richmond, Virginia, USA
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posted 10-27-2001 12:13 AM

Kristen, I run the booth in at $2.00 house. We NEVER EVER use splicing tape or anything else that interferes with the quality of the presentation. It is your attitude that is screwing up this business for the rest of us who give a damn. If you are now out of the projection room it is good riddance.

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Brad Miller
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posted 10-27-2001 12:47 AM

Bill, please read the last paragraph in the FAQ before posting further.

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Jon Miller
Jedi Master Film Handler

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From: San Diego, CA, USA
Registered: Sep 1999

posted 10-27-2001 01:21 AM

I wish we could vent our frustrations on splicing-tape manufacturers, to shame them into dropping the opaque stuff from their offerings and enlighten users on Zebra tape at the very least.

Count another vote here for opaque tape--any color--being the work of the Devil.

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Joe Redifer
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From: Denver, Colorado
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posted 10-27-2001 01:39 AM

I would be hesitant to start blaming PEOPLE who use yellow splicing tape, etc. Some people may not know that other, better tape exists. Most people only know what they have been taught by others (which is the basis of my "religion" argument). If one has tried using clear tape and still knowingly uses opaque tape instead, then yes, they are making a very bad choice and should be taught otherwise.

If you go around yelling at people who have only so much experience, they will only get defensive about it. They will not get a desire to improve. Why should they? They would see you as an aggressor with an attitude and they would do anything NOT to be like you. Mistakes will be made, and we should do our best to teach others to do things right instead of just bitching.

Yelling at a company who makes a lousy product or who offers poor service in ENTIRELY different!

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Don Sneed
Master Film Handler

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From: Texas City, TX, USA
Registered: Aug 2001

posted 10-27-2001 01:43 AM

Whoooaaaa weeeeee I guess I better not tell everyone that I use to use white shoe polish in the film to mark the reels...

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Don Sneed
Master Film Handler

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From: Texas City, TX, USA
Registered: Aug 2001

posted 10-27-2001 01:50 AM

Hey Bill, another way to look at it is, when the projectionist tells the theatre manager the parts or supplies they need, the manager orders it....if you ask for splicing tape you get whatever the supply company send, & you used it....yellow, white, clear, whatever !!

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Rachel Gilardi
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From: Peabody, MA, USA
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posted 10-27-2001 02:27 AM

Kristin,

I used to work at a $1.50 house where we used zebra tape (the clear stuff with the yellow dashes thru the middle). For presentation quality it is much better because you don't loose any of the soundtrack and much less of the picture then the yellow or white tape while still making it easy to find the reels while breaking down.

While it is always better to use the clear tape some companys insist on using the yellow or white tape but will agree on the zebra tape at the projectionists request. Unfortunatly at my husbands theater the owner refuses to buy the zebra tape incase he ever has to break down one of the films , they use the yellow crap!

I too admit that I used to use white china marker, OH THE HORROR!!!! I learned my lesson.

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Gordon McLeod
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From: Toronto Ontario Canada
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posted 10-27-2001 03:02 PM

Well I tend to agree with Bill on this one, though maybe not with the bluntness. It is one thing to say my boss insists or it is company policy and as such an employee does not have a choice but to say well it is a discount house who cares.
That is the attitude that I equate with the E cinema argument that "it is good enough."
Film done right has to be a ingrained mental attitude as well, and that is at all levels of the industry
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Paul Harnden
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From: Chandler, AZ, USA
Registered: Oct 2001

posted 10-27-2001 05:01 PM

I agree with Rachael on the zebra tape. The head projectionist would order it because of the way it helped the presentation. We used clear tape when out of zebra or for mid-reel splices, but working with zebra tape was kinda nice.

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William T. Parr
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From: Cedar Park, TX
Registered: Nov 2000

posted 10-27-2001 06:05 PM

I can understand everyones view here, but when I first started as a Projectionist at UA, All my manager would give me to work with in the booth was Solid Yellow or Solid white splicing tape. He told me we had to use all of it up first before he would order Zebra tape. I personally think that sucked, but I would feel really bad if that were the posistion that Kristin is in here then having to get Blasted like that. May not be her attitude at all but the attidtude of those above her. Alot of companies that do run discount houses treat the place as such. It is an attitude from management that Oh Well the folks are only pay 1.50 to get in the door here, so who cares is the appreture plate is slightly off in the big auditorium, or the Stereo sound like crud. They only paid a buck to get in. It is that attitude in corporations that is ruining the industry as well. Food for Thought.

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