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Tom Doyle
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From: Bristol, CT, USA
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 - posted 11-25-2003 09:16 PM      Profile for Tom Doyle   Email Tom Doyle   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I'm bumping up this thread because I'm looking for a good oil for use in the Simplex 1060. I would like to try a synthetic, however, I'm concerned that Lavezzi oil might be a bit too thick for this projector. Is anyone here a regular user of a synthetic oil in the 1060 (or any of the similar 'oil bath' Simplexes)?

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Bruce Hansen
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 - posted 11-26-2003 11:14 AM      Profile for Bruce Hansen   Email Bruce Hansen   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
There is a Mobil 1 synthetic 0W-20 that is a very light weight oil. I have not tried using it in a projector, and don't know if there would be any problem using it for that purpose.

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Dave Ganoe
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 - posted 11-26-2003 01:42 PM      Profile for Dave Ganoe   Email Dave Ganoe   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
After reading this post Im worried. I have been using sae 10w non det oil in my super simplex proj head and sae 30wt non det in the rca 1040 soundhead. I used this because of information that I had gotten some time ago. Now that I have used this for over a year what should be done to switch or do I even need to change what I am using?

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Gordon McLeod
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 - posted 11-26-2003 05:38 PM      Profile for Gordon McLeod   Email Gordon McLeod   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
The lighter oil will typically leak more
the super simplex simplex e7 and century was sae20

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Mark Gulbrandsen
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 - posted 11-29-2003 07:44 AM      Profile for Mark Gulbrandsen   Email Mark Gulbrandsen   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I am a big believer in using synthetic oils in projectors. Typically projectors have such a small quantity of oil in them to begin with that switching to a longer lasting synthetic will definately get you more life from the critical components in the machine...at least thats been my experience with it. UNder use in a projector synthetics simply do not break down like regular oils do. They are also totally non acedic and contain no wax agents at all....both very important prerequisites for a good projector oil. I have used LaVezzi oil for quite a few years in both Century and Phillips projectors...DP-70, FP-20, etc. It is however too thick for a Simplex X-L. Check out the Mobil synthetics available at W.W.Grainger. They have a pretty wide range available there including synthetic compressor and hydraulic oils in the lighter weights.

Mark @ CLACO

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John Walsh
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 - posted 11-29-2003 03:59 PM      Profile for John Walsh   Email John Walsh   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Question: If one switched from regular oil to a synthetic, wouldn't the regular oil have to flushed out completely? I'm guessing you would have to pour in the synthetic, then dump it after a few minutes, then refill.

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Mark Gulbrandsen
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 - posted 11-29-2003 04:53 PM      Profile for Mark Gulbrandsen   Email Mark Gulbrandsen   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
John,
You're right! The absolute best way to change over to synthetics is to do a tear down of what ever it is you want to use it in and then switch over to synthetic. But even if you don't do it that way there are still many,many advantages of switching to it. The additive that is in the LaVezzi stuff may not penetrate the first molecular thickness or two of metal quite as well as if it were the only oil the machine had ever seen. Other synthetic oils, unless stated, generally do not have any additives.

BTW: Synthetics are great for use in rental equipment that may sit for a while and then get used. Synthetics do not evaporate and end up leaving a sticky, gluey film.
Mark

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