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Author Topic: Thank-you Technicolor F@#K YOU!!!!! Brad Miller Administrator Posts: 17775 From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall) Registered: May 99 posted 08-07-2005 08:43 AM                     Monte, the idea was to create a reel that everyone liked. That's why they made the multiple revisions to it. I agree about the ETS "Fox boxes" though. They suck, suck, suck!!! I think they like those boxes better because the entire package is in ONE box, so they don't have to keep up with 2 or 3 cans per shipment. Clearly the ETS guys have never had to carry prints all packed in one box up flights of stairs to projection booths though.  |  IP: Logged Jason Whitlock Film Handler Posts: 28 From: Raleigh, NC, USA Registered: Mar 2005 posted 08-07-2005 11:05 AM                     the cardboard boxes do suck.. i'm surprised none of them have fallen apart on me yet.. I do like the plastic ones, as they are usually lighter than the metal cans, and are easier on the hands with the wider handles, but it sometimes takes a hammer just to get the thing to latch closed. We had one box I literally had to wrap packing tape around because the latch wasn't lining up at all  |  IP: Logged Kurt Zupin Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 989 From: Maricopa, Arizona Registered: Oct 2004 posted 08-07-2005 11:38 AM                     Speaking of the ETS Cardboard boxes, just recently I recieved one that was ripped all the way down the corner. Instead of scraping the box for a new one. They put so much tape on it a Sears Christmas wraper would be jelous. FREAKING IDIOTS!  |  IP: Logged Bill Enos Film God Posts: 2081 From: Richmond, Virginia, USA Registered: Apr 2000 posted 08-07-2005 11:40 AM                     Technicolor does seem to have gotten its act together. It's been a while since I've gotten a broken reel from them, the spacers seem to help. The Fox boxes from ETS all seem to now have duct tape holding the lock tab in. One bax a few weeks ago had 3 bands of duct tape around it and two across the bottom because it was splitting at the flap folds. Smaller 4 reel boxes would be much easier to handle and last longer too.  |  IP: Logged Steven J Hart Master Film Handler Posts: 282 From: WALES, ND, USA Registered: Mar 2004 posted 08-07-2005 05:21 PM                        I'm not going to cut down the "Fox Box" too much. I just pick the box up from the bottom with both hands and carry it up the three flights of stairs to my booth. I don't think thats any harder than carrying two beat up cans that are usually heavier empty than the film contained within. I've found that prints shipped in these boxes are cleaner. They are generally not covered with cardboard fuzz like the average print shipped in a conventional can. It also costs just a touch over half as much to ship a print back to ETS in one box than it costs to ship a similar print in two cans. These boxes are not the greatest thing, but they do seem to get the job done. Steve  |  IP: Logged Dominic Espinosa Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1172 From: California, U.S.A. Registered: Jan 2004 posted 08-07-2005 09:04 PM                     quote: Jason Whitlock I do like the plastic ones, as they are usually lighter than the metal cans, and are easier on the hands with the wider handles, but it sometimes takes a hammer just to get the thing to latch closed. We had one box I literally had to wrap packing tape around because the latch wasn't lining up at all Agree about those big shipping cases, I could live with cans but these are very nice. But I've got to say Fox boxes. I've had those stupid plastic handles rip out of the top and send the print falling down the stairs before.  |  IP: Logged Wolff King Morrow Master Film Handler Posts: 490 From: Denton, TX, USA Registered: Feb 2004 posted 08-08-2005 03:09 AM                        Down with the cardboard boxes. I always get one or two of them that have no handle. I cannot stand those pieces of crap for a film container! And yes, I've also received boxes torn down the corner.  |  IP: Logged Mike Blakesley Film God Posts: 12767 From: Forsyth, Montana Registered: Jun 99 posted 08-08-2005 12:33 PM                        The key to managing those stupid boxes is, don't use the handle. Pick it up from the bottom. When loading up the box for ship-out, I set the empty box on the rewind bench, and place the reels into it. Then I can just grab the box from the bottom to carry it without bending over. I unload the box the same way. No bending = better. When shipping the boxes, I always put a few strips of tape across the bottom (good packaging tape, not masking or duct tape). If the bottom drops out in shipment and the film goes into a puddle, UPS will claim "improper packing" and won't pay your claim. I tape up the top really well, too. The depot can get a #$&*ing razor blade.  |  IP: Logged Dominic Espinosa Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1172 From: California, U.S.A. Registered: Jan 2004 posted 08-08-2005 01:36 PM                     Hah! Agreed, Mike. Something I should add about the big plastic shipping cases (not the boxes) is that the latch dealie on the front is a pain to get latched again if you don't know how to do it. Firstly, the lid has to be aligned perfectly and then, just like a cheap toolbox, you have to press in the middle of the latch to get it up and over the bar it latches to. Some are easier than others but I've never not been able to get one closed right. Hope that helps.  |  IP: Logged System Notices Forum Watchdog / Soup Nazi Posts: 215 Registered: Apr 2004 posted 08-26-2007 10:00 PM                 It has been 748 days since the last post.  |  IP: Logged Bill Enos Film God Posts: 2081 From: Richmond, Virginia, USA Registered: Apr 2000 posted 08-26-2007 10:00 PM                     I haven't been especially critical of TES in these posts, but this past Thursday really pissed us off. Received a print of Evan Almighty that would't play continuously in SRD, switched from 6 to F to Reverted to DD constantly. Call TES and requested a replacement print, giving the exact reason for the request, was told that we would get a call from them telling when to expect the next print to arrive. Got the call but it from their rep. suggesting that we just play it analog. After much discussion and a conversation with a manager TES agreed to send another print, the replacement played in DD the pic was so scratched we requested yet another. Number 3 is OK. The issue I guess is why is it ok to request a replacement for a bad picture but not OK to request a replacement for a defective sound track?  |  IP: Logged David Graves Film Handler Posts: 38 From: Cocoa, FL Registered: Nov 2006 posted 08-27-2007 12:42 AM                     Battling TES for replacement prints took so much of my time it wasn't funny. You're even worse off if the film has run for a bit. Ran an AMC 24 a while back, and was religious about never showing a scratched print. One of the booth kids was careless and put a tiny hairline down a print of NATIONAL TREASURE in the fifth week of the run. You could barely see it, but you could see it, so I ordered a new print. It came in the next day, so beat up that even the newest kid could see before even building it. We ordered another. And another. By the time all was said and done, we had SIX prints of the film sitting downstairs, and every single one was in far worse condition than the one I was trying to replace. It was a nightmare. The only positive spin was that when the kid who had scratched the print came in the next day, I had 12 cans ready for him to carry to the lobby, with the explanation of "THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU SCRATCH OUR PRINTS!".  |  IP: Logged Tristan Lane Master Film Handler Posts: 444 From: Nampa, Idaho Registered: Feb 2002 posted 08-27-2007 02:18 AM                     I find it interesting that ETS has started using cardboard. I'd rather work with Fox Boxes than the stupid plastic square reel cans that ETS is using. On a side note: ETS and Deluxe ship their digital hard drives in corrugated plastic boxes that look similar to the Fox box. Even the material is the same silver color. Technicolor ships their hard drives in a pelican-type case that is of course.... orange in color. AccessIT ships their hard drives in true Pelican branded cases. They are bright yellow, and come with two extra zip-ties to secure the case when it is shipped back.  |  IP: Logged Mike Olpin Chop Chop! Posts: 1852 From: Dallas, TX Registered: Jan 2002 posted 08-27-2007 02:19 AM                     quote: I had 12 cans ready for him to carry to the lobby, with the explanation of "THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU SCRATCH OUR PRINTS!". You, sir, are my new hero.  |  IP: Logged

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