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Author Topic: Mr. Nasher strikes again! Bobby Henderson "Ask me about Trajan." Posts: 10973 From: Lawton, OK, USA Registered: Apr 2001 posted 09-10-2015 12:14 AM                     quote: Aaron Garman I think a perfect irony will be to see something like Mission: Impossible get a 4K Blu-ray release from its 4K digital intermediate when the DCP was only 2K. The sad thing is the DI is probably only 2K, but the bastards would probably try to up-rez it to 4K and attempt to pass it off as Ultra HD. That's really what I expect from Hollywood these days.  |  IP: Logged David Buckley Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 525 From: Oxford, N. Canterbury, New Zealand Registered: Aug 2004 posted 09-10-2015 09:57 PM                        quote: Aaron Garman And while the presentation was ok... And that there is the problem in one sentence. "OK" is "good enough"; there is almost zero will from the places where it matters for the presentation to be better than "ok".  |  IP: Logged Bobby Henderson "Ask me about Trajan." Posts: 10973 From: Lawton, OK, USA Registered: Apr 2001 posted 09-11-2015 09:45 AM                     The "good enough" thing is what pisses me off most about "digital." And it's not just in movie-going either. I see a lot of "good enough" or just plain WRONG crap going on in my line of work (graphic design/advertising). There was plenty of "good enough" nonsense and poor workmanship that took place in movie productions when everything was shot on film and the audio was all analog. However, the big budget productions typically pushed the technology to its limits and had some pretty serious planning and strategy for how to do it. I'm still more impressed with many of the space battle visuals in Return of the Jedi than I am with any modern CGI sequence. ILM labored over the details in those film-based visual effects. They had to do so since there was no "undo button" and a committee of arm chair quarterbacks couldn't go back and compulsively change a bunch of shit on the fly. In the end those old analog-based effects looked pretty damned believable. Meanwhile a bunch of modern CGI looks like a stupid cartoon. It looks like a cartoon because the stuff is just churned out quickly with "good enough" standards. They're not pushing the technology to the limit. Return of the Jedi is what got THX going, and added to the uncompromising status of the GCC Northpark #1 screen. They found and solved audio problems in that theater. It wasn't enough just to get the "THX" brand onto the theater and into newspaper ads. Today it seems like the techs are only paid to just slap in the amps, speakers, etc. and then who gives a damn how well the finished system actually works? No one is even going to know any specifics of the configuration anyway since its all just "secret sauce" supposedly adding to a meaningless fake large format brand like IMAX, RPX, XD, Big-D, etc. The theater operators want customers to think that logo means the theater will be delivering the best possible movie-going experience. They obscure the fact many of these premium houses are not all equipped the same way and many of them are equipped barely any better than a standard priced auditorium. Many big chain theaters have the sound turned way down in their standard priced auditoriums while running the volume louder in the higher priced rooms. At the GCC Northpark 1-2 I didn't have to pay extra for digital sound with sub bass deep enough to rattle the air in my chest. That was standard there. I'm pretty disappointed with how surround sound is being handled in movie theaters right now. In its beginning Dolby Atmos was showing a great deal of promise. Unfortunately the pace of new installations has slowed to a crawl, even with the hype surrounding Dolby Cinema and Atmos being a part of it. Out of the theaters that are installing it some are making compromises on the kinds of speakers being installed, skimping on the amps or not even installing surround sub bass enclosures. It's deemed too expensive to maintain a certain standard and have the audio working the way it should. Meanwhile all but four IMAX-branded theaters have dopey 5.0 surround yet charge huge sums of money for a ticket. Auro and DTS MDA are adding more confusion to this and, arguably, allowing theater operators to throw "immersive sound" hype at customers in a more cost cutting manner. If I go into a movie theater I've never visited before I'm often now entering with really low expectations: slightly out of focus picture with less detail than my HDTV screen and mystery meat surround sound that might be 5.1 or 7.1 but have wimpy bass and questionable mid range. And that might include paying a surcharge for the not so remarkable experience. Gotta love "PLF" brand worship.  |  IP: Logged Eric Hooper Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 532 From: Fort Worth, TX, USA Registered: May 2003 posted 12-23-2015 08:19 AM                     Where exactly did the theater stand in relation to the mall?  |  IP: Logged Bobby Henderson "Ask me about Trajan." Posts: 10973 From: Lawton, OK, USA Registered: Apr 2001 posted 12-23-2015 12:17 PM                     If you use the Google Earth application you can use its "historical imagery" slider tool to see various snap shots of satellite imagery between 1995 and 2015, showing the transformation of Northpark Mall over the past 20 year. The 1995 imagery (which is in black and white and fairly low in resolution) is the only available example in Google Earth that shows the Northpark 1-2 theater. The theater was built north of the mall. It had an open parking lot on its East side and a parking garage on its West side. Below is a view of Northpark Mall today. I superimposed where the GCC Northpark 1-2 used to be in a shade of red. I wasn't thinking of blood, murder, etc. when I chose that color; it was just a coincidence. Nordstrom was built on the bones of the #2 auditorium. The mall walkway leading North into Nordstrom, as well as pieces of the Apple Store, Kiehl's, Ebar, J. Jill and the "Nordstrom Court" sit on the bones of the #1 THX house. That part of Northpark Mall might as well be built on ancient Native American burial grounds. It's that much of a sacrilege as far as I'm concerned. I'm not going to do any shopping there.  |  IP: Logged Eric Hooper Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 532 From: Fort Worth, TX, USA Registered: May 2003 posted 12-24-2015 01:23 AM                     Thank you!!!  |  IP: Logged Aaron Garman Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1470 From: Toledo, OH USA Registered: Mar 2003 posted 12-24-2015 02:10 AM                     Thank you Bobby. I've been trying to visualize this for awhile, but your photoshop skills make all the difference. I'd certainly take Northpark over a Dillards any day.  |  IP: Logged

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