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Aaron Sisemore
Flaming Ribs beat Reeses Peanut Butter Cups any day!

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From: Rockwall TX USA
Registered: Sep 1999
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posted 08-17-2001 07:53 PM
My only real tower horror story like that was when I was breaking a print from the large reels (solid hub Golbergs) and as the first reel [of the feature] was coming off at high speed (Wolk rewinds with the speed control that has 2 speeds: off and 1725 RPM) as the reel came off of the make up table spindle and then CLANGGGG! ZING!!!!!!!!! One of the holes in the reel flange caught the 1/2" spindle, bending it 90 degrees straight up. The inertia of the spinning reel also sheared the rivets from one of the reels' flanges causing it to detach and become a buzz-saw as it headed first toward me, then toward the booth wall crashing to a halt within a second or two. Film, as you may have imagined, was everywhere, I was in shock for a few seconds and then had to face the reality of how in the hell I was going to bend that spindle back to use this table again. Yeeha! Fun!Aaron
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Ben Wales
Jedi Master Film Handler

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From: Southampton. England
Registered: Jul 99
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posted 08-18-2001 05:45 PM
I have seen and used some of the Cinemeccancia "Floating Hub" spools, they have a larger spool hub with steel wire sides and do not seam to bend as with the old Premire 14,000ft spools.The Westrex (5035 Film Carrier)Tower is controled by three variacs, one controls the pay off, the other for the take up. the third is for rewinding. The Variacs control the current to the motors, and with the (Double Sided) can be four (two each side).
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Stephen Brown
Film Handler
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From: Newcastle, NSW, Australia
Registered: Jan 2000
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posted 08-21-2001 07:32 AM
All,My Tower 'horror' story is not really a horror story but its close. We were running a movie of a Cinemecanica tower system, and as the projector started (trailers on the other projector) for the changeover the film snapped at the bottom roller of the projector. Since there was two of us in the booth we decided in an instant not to stop. My mate went to the tower and started to reattach the film to the takeup reel while I took up position at the bottom of the projector making sure that the film fed out ok and didnt get looped or knot up (and tried to minimise the amount of film on the floor). Suffice to say after about 5 mins we caught up and kept the show on the sheet!. Ran it through the film cleaner afterwards and did a nice splice and all was ok. Try doing that with a platter!!!! regards Steve Brown
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Carl King
Expert Film Handler

Posts: 199
From: Saint John, New Brunswick, Canada
Registered: Mar 2000
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posted 08-21-2001 09:24 AM
Hi there:You asked if anyone was using Cinemeccanica machines with platters. I use 4 Victoria IVs and 3 Victoria 8s all with Strong platters (4 are the A3 model and 2 are the AP3). I like the Strong system. I have had very little problems with them. And don't even think about trying to take my Cinemmecannica Vic IVs away from me. I like 'em. You can have the Vic 8s if you want. Platters combined with a quality automations system (properly installed) and well maintaned projectors make for a nearly trouble free booth.
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Danny Hart
Film Handler
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From: St Andrews, Scotland
Registered: Nov 2000
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posted 08-21-2001 06:59 PM
I’ve worked with both systems and most of the big issues have already been covered in this thread - but what are the differences in price? How much is a AW3 compared to a Westrex tower?Also, with a 4 or 5 deck platter, you can have up to 4 separate programmes in one hall without having to lift a print. And each one up to 270 mins long, too! We quite often have alternate programmes in our cinema (Film A at noon, Film B about 3pm, Film A again about 6pm and film B at 9pm). Which means, using platters, we can join both shows together, trailers and ads too, into one giant roll of film requiring only 2 lace-ups per day. Quite handy when it's down 2 flights of stairs, through a screen, down more stairs, through the foyer then up three flights of stairs!!! Just out of interest, what's the longest running time you’ve dared to put on a platter OR tower?
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Aaron Sisemore
Flaming Ribs beat Reeses Peanut Butter Cups any day!

Posts: 3061
From: Rockwall TX USA
Registered: Sep 1999
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posted 08-21-2001 10:43 PM
>>what's the longest running time you’ve dared to put on a platter OR tower?<<PLATTERS: (Single Features) Branaugh's 'Hamlet'(Estar) and 'Das Boot: The Director's Cut'(acetate) on a 48" CFS Super Platter took it to within 1/2" of the edge. 'Amistad' on a Christie MW3 Miniwind (42" discs) came to within 3/8" of the edge. I have also placed double features on AW2, AW3 and Norelco platters that came pretty close to the edge as well. TOWERS: 'Amadeus' overfilled the reel by about 4" on the Cinemeccanica DGB tower (and amazingly stayed put) Usually i would split looong films like that in half. Aaron
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