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Topic: NORTH BY NORTHWEST VistaVision?
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Bernard Tonks
Jedi Master Film Handler
Posts: 619
From: Cranleigh, Surrey, England
Registered: Apr 2001
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posted 08-07-2002 07:40 PM
In the UK only 70mm was only exempted from British Film Quota laws, all 35mm cinemas had to show a percentage of British made films every year! To get over the problem of running one particular film at the Astoria, London for over 12 months was, Mike Todd’s Cinestage “Around The World In 80 Days”, prints were made 34mm, yes 1mm was shaved off the film stock.The Rank Organisation produced a few Anamorphic VistaVision pictures. Perhaps there were also some Paramount pictures released in the same format, as many Odeon and Gaumont cinemas were equipped with Gaumont Kalee Varamorphs! See the American Wide Screen Museum on the Rank Organisation & Anamorphic VistaVision. Edit: www.widescreenmuseum.com/widescreen/wingvv1.htm (on page 2)
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Tao Yue
Expert Film Handler
Posts: 209
From: Princeton, NJ
Registered: Apr 2001
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posted 08-08-2002 08:06 AM
Bernard wrote: quote:
Looking up the American Widescreen Museum, There was also a Super VistaVision print of "The Ten Commandments" which was 70mm.
In fact, the term "Super VistaVision" was created for the 1989 re-release of The Ten Commandments. Searching through Google archives of rec.arts.movies.tech, I once found quite a bit of info on this. Can't seem to find much now, but here's a summary. Apparently, the heraldic borders on the opening credits were composed for CinemaScope ratio. When people at Paramount saw this, they looked at the rest of the film cropped to 2.39 and noticed that, for the most part, it didn't look horrible. de Mille left a lot of headroom since VistaVision was new and the aspect ratio hadn't been standardized. When I look at most of the scenes in a proper 1.66/1.85 print/transfer, I can easily imagine it cropped to 2.39 without looking bad -- it even looks roomy in this age of Super 35 chopped foreheads. However, like wrongly-done Super 35, some scenes which were not composed for CinemaScope ratio got overcropped. In the scene where King Rameses drops the urn of water and blood splashes out, the impact on the ground was completely cropped out. Some people saw a 70mm print at the Cinerama Dome, and there was speculation that it was made worse by the overscanning that troubled the Dome. There was also speculation that the 70mm print was made by cropping 2.39 to 2.2, which is worse than cropping VistaVision ON to 2.2. Anyway, this is all second or third-hand info, but rather than have people mention bits and pieces of it, I thought it might be useful to gather it all together in one place. Now Vertigo -- that was a properly done Super VistaVision transfer.
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