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Greg Mueller
Phenomenal Film Handler

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From: Port Gamble, WA
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 - posted 06-09-2003 10:12 AM      Profile for Greg Mueller   Author's Homepage   Email Greg Mueller   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
It doesn't seem to me that the computer parts side of the DTS system would be a problem, but rather the drives and their interface. My system has never been upgraded and still runs with the caddys. When I first got the system I looked around on the net and found what I believe to be (they were sold as) factory refurbished drives of the same model. But they were had to find even then. I think maybe the drives will be the weak link.
I think the HD system is a great idea. I can see all sorts of possiblities for storage of trailers and backing up sound tracks etc. Dual Hdrives woo-who
I never did get a price on it though

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Jonathan M. Crist
Jedi Master Film Handler

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My understanding is that the 'trade-in' credit being offered by DTS towards the HD system is $850.00.

What is the cost of the new HD system?

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Adam Fraser
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Seems like you could get more than $850.00 on the used market, it would seem more theatres would have digital sound if the conversion with used parts was just over $1000.00.

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Mark Gulbrandsen
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Actually he cady drives are the best ones....should I say, last the longest, but will eventally fail too. The mommieboard has a special BIOS on it so that forcludes using any generic 486 mommieboards. The other support cards also require apecial stuff to run and those are also going to the dumpster.

Paul,
Jurassic Park appeared in 1993, and this is 2003, so it is about 10 years time.......give or take a month or so.
Mark

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Karen Hultgren
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We are still using discs to distribuate DTS sound tracks.

The XD10 standard unit (no options) sells for $6,950.00 list price. The unit includes all interconnect cables, a 35mm reader, a reader mounting bracket, a manual, and DTS trailers. A wallchart will soon be released to help guide new users through the XD10.

Our first player, the DTS-6 (2-drive), just like me at DTS, has been around for 10-years and debuted with our first release, JURASSIC PARK. At that time, the system sold for $2,500.00. Getting credit for the return of your DTS-6 (whether working or not) towards the purchase of a XD10, is a pretty good deal, IMO.

Karen at DTS
khultgren@dtsonline.com

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Per Hauberg
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Happy aniversary, Karen When is the party ?

I don't think, i can still locate that bill from november 1994 for my first dts unit, but if my memory does not cheat me, local danish dealer more than doubled up that price...

Not that i have ever thought, i did not get my money worth, but this sounds a bit less than nice. -The dealer is not in business any more, but it's sure not due to too little profit on Your product, he went down [Wink]

Looking forward to learn about the next dts miracle -

all the best !

Per

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Greg Mueller
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Karen
Will the new rack unit work with the older readers and wiring?

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Mathew Molloy
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I don't know it this has been proposed before but the thought just occured to me - wouldn't it be cool if DTS provided a download site where theatres could download and burn the discs they need? I know there's so many second run and repertory prints missing their discs as so many evil first run theatres have a tendancy to just pile them up in a corner.

I'm sure there'd be a possible copyright issue as well some problems with the licensing from one country to the other. Still, seem s like it would be cool.

Of course, there's always Kazaa... [evil]

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Matt Close
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Brad even offered to host d/l's on Film-Tech, but apparently there is some crapola copyright reason he can't [Frown]

Now call me crazy, but tell me ..... in this day and age of pretty darn fast computers, would it not be possible for DTS to develop a mostly software decoded DTS solution for theatres. Imagine a special 6-channel sound card and a DTS reader plugged in to a serial port as being all you need to add to a PC to make it do the job. With the low price of computers, CD-roms and hard-drives these days it would surely be a very low-cost solution...... Which to small independant theatres like mine, would be a very, very attractive idea. I'm sure there would be a lot more DTS out there if it were affordable for everyone. Of course I have no idea what the insides of the the new DTS HD unit contain, but perhaps it 'is' more software based than the older models.... and if it is, perhaps the technology they have already developed could be applied to this PC based idea. And DTS could keep costs down further because we would be responsible for taking care of the main hardware side of things, meaning they would not have to factor as much warranty service in to the purchase price. And upgrades could be made easy too .... More channels in the future? Update the software and throw another special DTS sound card in! ..... No need to buy more expensive boxes or replace entire units......

Like I said .... call me crazy .... but be honest guys..... Wouldn't it interest you if your theatre could afford to have EVERY screen equipped with DTS?

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Daryl C. W. O'Shea
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quote:
Imagine a special 6-channel sound card and a DTS reader plugged in to a serial port as being all you need to add to a PC to make it do the job. With the low price of computers, CD-roms and hard-drives these days it would surely be a very low-cost solution......
So low a cost that DTS wouldn't last too long selling a relatively low volume product at such a low price.

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Matt Close
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How many more screens would equip with DTS though if it was really affordable??? Perhaps that would offset the problem you suggested.....

I know I would! Currently we are talking around $11,500 (AU) for a DTS-6D, which I can't convince my owner is worth spending

This next bit I am taking a guess at, because I have no idea if DTS gets paid everytime a film includes a DTS soundtrack... but,

If DTS were to become THE format due to mass adoption of the format because of the low cost of such an idea for theatres...... wouldn't DTS they also make 'more' money through DTS sound probably being put on to EVERY film released?

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Michael Schaffer
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I don`t think so: we are talking about a couple of 10.000 screens, not the millions and millions of customers that home entertainment hardware finds and which make those technologies so cheap when they have been adopted by enough people.
You have what you are asking for in a different form in the dts and Dolby decoders which are in countless millions of home systems. These systems now are relatively cheap because the DVD technology in all its aspects is established in a huge worldwide market.

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Mark Gulbrandsen
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The D to A convertors in the 6 and 6D are of extremely high quality, and you'd find that adds to the expense. The 6 has the best of the audio cards and has Jensen transformers on the output......thats as good as it gets. Personally I wouldn't want them to change a thing, nor offer it any other way.
Mark @ CLACO

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Greg Mueller
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Another problem with downloading the ".AUD" files on the disks is that they are huge. Unless you live on a very fast internet connection it would take a long long time to download those files. Even cable internet has a problem in that the upload speed is usually nowhere near the download speed.

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Karen Hultgren
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Greg - The readers have not changed and the reader & power cable will be the same. All other cables will change.

Karen at DTS
khultgren@dtsonline.com

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