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Author Topic: LOTR: Return of the King will have 3 DTS discs Martin Brooks Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 900 From: Forest Hills, NY, USA Registered: May 2002 posted 09-12-2003 12:48 PM                        quote: Once again: Ask around the cinema once and a while (during intermission, maybe ) If one out of a thousand has noticed the seventh channel, You're lucky. Next step will not be selling more tickets. Of course they don't, but it's supposed to be subtle. If you ask, I'd bet they don't even notice 3 channels or 5 channels. Want to go back to mono if they don't notice? And judging from my experiences when things go wrong, people don't even notice when channels are completely missing. But that's not the point. There's a subconscious effect that the overall presentation and channel distribution has on the audience. This is especially true as sound mixers have attempted to create a sound field, rather than having discrete sounds emanating from particular speakers, as they did in the 1950s-60s. And when it's done properly it makes a difference, although out of all the additions to cinema sound in the last 20 years, ES/EX is probably the most subtle. Would I spend money on ES/EX if I wasn't upgrading anyway? Definitely not. But if I had another reason to upgrade the sound or if I were building a new screen, I would definitely put in that channel.  |  IP: Logged Brad Miller Administrator Posts: 17775 From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall) Registered: May 99 posted 11-22-2003 01:01 AM                     Just a reminder, for those of you without the budget to upgrade to the XD-10 and have a 2 drawer dts player, the "how to" upgrade page is now in the public section of the front page of this website, or can be accessed here.  |  IP: Logged Bruce Hansen Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 847 From: Stone Mountain, GA, USA Registered: Dec 1999 posted 11-22-2003 10:50 AM                     A question for Brad: If someone upgraded their 2 drawer unit some time ago, and used just the two drive up grade, can they now get a thire drive, and a new SCSI cable, and upgrade to three drives?  |  IP: Logged Greg Mueller Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1687 From: Port Gamble, WA Registered: Jun 99 posted 11-22-2003 01:50 PM                        I just skimmed the "add a 3rd player" how to and didn't see any mention of price. What's the ball park for one of those 3 player upgrade kits?  |  IP: Logged Richard Greco Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1180 From: Plant City, FL Registered: Nov 2003 posted 11-22-2003 02:42 PM                     So, If I get 3 discs with my copy, I should be ok since my DTS system has 3 drives correct?  |  IP: Logged Brad Miller Administrator Posts: 17775 From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall) Registered: May 99 posted 11-22-2003 03:43 PM                     quote: If someone upgraded their 2 drawer unit some time ago, and used just the two drive up grade, can they now get a thire drive, and a new SCSI cable, and upgrade to three drives? The answer is yes. Just follow the rest of the instructions and purchase an identical drive from the internet. Take the cover off of your player and get the brand and model number and do a google search to find one.  |  IP: Logged Richard Greco Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1180 From: Plant City, FL Registered: Nov 2003 posted 11-22-2003 09:58 PM                     I found out tonight that LOTR:III is approx 3h 50 min with credits...not previews.  |  IP: Logged Brad Miller Administrator Posts: 17775 From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall) Registered: May 99 posted 11-22-2003 11:23 PM                     Where did you get this information? That is not what I have been hearing. I keep hearing 3h 30m 'ish running times.  |  IP: Logged Mark Gulbrandsen Resident Trollmaster Posts: 16657 From: Music City Registered: Jun 99 posted 11-22-2003 11:43 PM                     Actually I think its pretty nice that DTS has offered any trade in at all and you can save another $750.00 U.S. by re-using your present time code reader and not ordering a new one with the XD-10. I can't remember Dolby, Ultra Stereo, or Smart offering any trade in for their older equipment against new stuff. Those that don't have three drawers units can have three drawers by following the instructions on this site for adding a third drawer to their two drawer units. Its very easy to do. Our first XD-10 out of the box didn't work. The display screen hung on Initalizing..... and never finished booting up. DTS reccomended re-seating all the connectors inside and that took care of the problem. We have 5 XD-10's going in right after Thanksgiving. After you've used an XD-10 you'll never want to use anything else . Its a very, very slick unit and I'm looking foreword to networking 4 of them early next year. Brad, If you based the net value of a DTS 6 on just its computer inards it'd be worth less than 50 bucks! Mark @ CLACO  |  IP: Logged John Hawkinson Film God Posts: 2273 From: Cambridge, MA, USA Registered: Feb 2002 posted 11-23-2003 12:04 AM                     Mark wrote, " Our first XD-10 out of the box didn't work. The display screen hung on Initalizing..... and never finished booting up. DTS reccomended re-seating all the connectors inside and that took care of the problem.." We had the same problem with our DTS-CSS (which is basically the same chassis as the XD-10). It basically comes down to "PCI sucks." We debugged it in some detail. Basically there was a consistent bit error reading the the PCI vendor ID of the DTS E303 card, which caused its kernel driver to fail to load, and then the software didn't know what to do so didn't finish the booting process. Reseating the card fixed the bit error. --jhawk  |  IP: Logged Darryl Spicer Film God Posts: 3250 From: Lexington, KY, USA Registered: Dec 2000 posted 11-23-2003 12:22 AM                    Last I heard the unofficial running time for LOTR: ROTK was 3hrs. 20mins.  |  IP: Logged Bobby Henderson "Ask me about Trajan." Posts: 10973 From: Lawton, OK, USA Registered: Apr 2001 posted 11-23-2003 01:34 AM                     3:20 would be exactly at the upper limit of 2 DTS discs, 200 minutes. No room for any THX or DTS trailers audio. But certainly better than having to switch out discs in the middle of the movie if you have an original (and still trusty) DTS-6 2-drive unit.  |  IP: Logged Gracia L. Babbidge Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 709 From: Bowdoin, Maine Registered: Aug 2000 posted 11-23-2003 01:58 AM                        I took a peek at IMDB ... and they're listing the running time for Lord of the Rings - the Return of the King as 210 minutes (3 hours, 30 minutes for those that don't want to do the math). And I'm well aware that they could be in error. Then again, this third installment, logically, will need to include events from the end of the novel the Two Towers that weren't covered in the second film. ...Funny, a bit of what was seen from the end of the film of the Fellowship of the Ring was actually from the beginning of the Two Towers (novel).  |  IP: Logged Darryl Spicer Film God Posts: 3250 From: Lexington, KY, USA Registered: Dec 2000 posted 11-23-2003 02:01 AM                    Someone was telling me that they had read were about fifteen minutes of scene with Christopher Lee had been cut from TROTK. Anyone else hear anything about this.  |  IP: Logged Richard Greco Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1180 From: Plant City, FL Registered: Nov 2003 posted 11-23-2003 02:34 AM                     Brad, I think I was in error when I quoted 3 h 50 mins.without previews. Carmike corporate had already set the run times with the previews. So I'm assuming that the 3 hrs 50 mins mark is with 15-20 mins of previews.  |  IP: Logged

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