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Dustin Mitchell
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 - posted 01-15-2004 02:31 PM      Profile for Dustin Mitchell   Email Dustin Mitchell   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Max, I can't tell from the diagram but it looks like the platter base has leveling pads. Depending on how plumb your booth floor is I think rollers would be required no matter what.

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Tim Reed
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I like the staggered-disc idea, would make it easier for big guys like me to work on the centers.

Also, we'd considered the idea of putting a 6,000 ft. capacity reel arm somewhere on the platter tree, so you wouldn't need a MUT to makeup shows. Just put a reel up and wind it on (or, make the arm removable and just hook it on when you need it). With multiple changes every week, and only needing to lug a MUT to a platter for breakdowns, a "satellite" feature would likely speed booth workflow.

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Scott Norwood
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To sort of go along with Tim's idea--how about putting a potentiometer on the tree which would allow one to run any deck at any speed when that deck is in make-up mode? This would speed up trailer changes significantly (versus winding trailers on by spinning the deck by hand or dragging a MUT around).

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Brad Miller
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 - posted 01-16-2004 12:09 PM      Profile for Brad Miller   Author's Homepage   Email Brad Miller       Edit/Delete Post 
I would think the reel arm would stick out and be in the way, ala Strong MUTs. I do really like the idea of a potentiometer built into the column for "making up". It would substantially help with trailer work and other various things, like speed winding. It should be inexpensive to add as well.

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Bevan Wright
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Scott, Brad - Great idea, consider it done.

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Tim Reed
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quote:
I would think the reel arm would stick out and be in the way
Depends on where you mount it. If it's made to just lift off when you're not using it, no problems. Beats lugging a MUT over and working around that.

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Bevan Wright
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Slave MUTs used for make-up only are used in Mexico a lot. Sounds like a great idea to me... we will look into making provisions for this.

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Dino Panagiotopoulos
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Bevan,
These drawings look like they were produced in AutoCAD. If thats correct would you guys happen to have a .dwg file of the 3D model? That would be my favourite way to visualize something and get better feedback .

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Max Biela
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Yeah, this Pot would be a great help for everyone [Smile] !

Does the MUT use ONE or TWO cables?

Max

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Bevan Wright
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One cable, AMP plug.

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Brad Miller
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Lots of people use the Goldberg Platter Reel for building prints, which saves an incredible amount of time. Please keep this in mind when building the platter. (In other words, please make that "loading arm" an option, not a standard item.)

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Bevan Wright
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Brad, absolutely, it will be an option.

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Tim Reed
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Brad, I was thinking somewhere near the top of the tree and not in the way of the discs.

Bevan, it's commendable that you are getting input from others in the technical community. I would venture to say you will indeed arrive at the best combination of features and performance in your products. Good luck to you!

Mexico, eh? Shucks, I thought it was an original idea of mine... [Frown]

[Big Grin]

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Bevan Wright
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What's everyones opinion on the Kinoton take-up arm configuration? Vertically oriented roller with arm extending beyond the deck.

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Steve Guttag
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It presupposes that the deck turns exactly true without any hill and dales. Given the massive support mechanism of the Kinoton...that may be pretty reasonable.

I don't like having the film turned trying to defy gravity heading into the platter either. I don't know if this is something I would emulate.

Steve

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