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Author Topic: What is the value of a Simplex Standard? Paul G. Thompson The Weenie Man Posts: 4718 From: Mount Vernon WA USA Registered: Nov 2000 posted 07-02-2004 09:32 PM                     Bah! Even in the unions, we had "booth checkouts" before we were allowed to grind up prints. (remember one instance last October?) I thought it was funnier than hell, but I didn't have the heart to razz you about it.  |  IP: Logged Brad Miller Administrator Posts: 17775 From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall) Registered: May 99 posted 07-02-2004 09:38 PM                     Ooooooooh, a 30 year old brittle as hell acetate print snapped on me after bashing the living crap out of my head and forgetting to check a tension setting in my dizziness. Yeah, you don't have the "heart". Uh huh. By the way, you must be crazy if you think I am going to take on this bet without winning anything. The way you want to do it is that I put forth all of your expenses, then when I prove you wrong, I gain nothing. Let's put some cash on it. I say $1000 plus the loser pays your travel expenses. I pick the theater. (To be fair it will be 8 screens or less.) You get two shifts to observe, one shift to work it on your own where you may ask questions, then you run the place non-stop for 2 weeks with everything that the job entails. Heck, we'll even put you on payroll for your hours worked where you don't screw up. *Late show starts = fail. (We'll give you one freebie here.) *Film interruption = fail. (We'll give you one freebie here too.) *Botched presentation (lights/masking/basic stuff) = fail. (Aww heck, you can have a freebie here as well.) *Scratched print or print damage of any kind = fail...no exceptions! Plus you pay for the replacement print. EASY MONEY!  |  IP: Logged Joe Redifer You need a beating today Posts: 12859 From: Denver, Colorado Registered: May 99 posted 07-02-2004 09:41 PM                        Phil, I am angry and insulted that you did not list me in your post. You are BANNED! I would pay to see Paul battle Antonio Marcheselli. No Ccinnemmaccanniccaccas allowed!  |  IP: Logged Phil Hill I love my cootie bug Posts: 7595 From: Hollywood, CA USA Registered: Mar 2000 posted 07-02-2004 09:45 PM                  I'm Banned AGAIN! Holy Smokes! Joe, get a life! We were talking about "kids", NOT old geezers like you! PULZEEZE! >>> Phil  |  IP: Logged Paul G. Thompson The Weenie Man Posts: 4718 From: Mount Vernon WA USA Registered: Nov 2000 posted 07-02-2004 09:45 PM                     I don't bet cash. Bad business. I'll pull a slot machine once in a while, but I consider that as recreational expenses. As I mentioned, you flip the bill for me to come down there, with a gentleman's agreement that if I lose, I'll re-emburse you to the last penny. If you feel more comfortable, I'll compromise 50% I'll put up half, you put up half. Then, it is winner take all if you can agree to the idea that you will pay my half. Remember, I am out the normal wages I would make from my job at the radio station. Naturally, I would have to get permission from my employer to absent myself from the radio station. If he does not give me permission, the deal will not happen. I think that is fair. I would offer you the same courtesy if the shoe was on the other foot.  |  IP: Logged Phil Hill I love my cootie bug Posts: 7595 From: Hollywood, CA USA Registered: Mar 2000 posted 07-02-2004 09:59 PM                  Brad & Paul... I'll take $1000 of that! Ummmm, for the "kids" ...oh and if I win, I'll donate it to a charity of the winner's choice. >>> Phil  |  IP: Logged Paul G. Thompson The Weenie Man Posts: 4718 From: Mount Vernon WA USA Registered: Nov 2000 posted 07-02-2004 10:10 PM                     Brad said: quote: Brad Miller *Late show starts = fail. (We'll give you one freebie here.) *Film interruption = fail. (We'll give you one freebie here too.) *Botched presentation (lights/masking/basic stuff) = fail. (Aww heck, you can have a freebie here as well.) *Scratched print or print damage of any kind = fail...no exceptions! Plus you pay for the replacement print. Hmmm....you are too easy. I ran my first booth 49 years ago. Got my 35mm license in 1967. Serviced 148 screens on a regular route for 3 years. Union sanctioned as a technician about 10 years ago. Have not lost a show or botched a show in eons. I ground up one print - about 25 years ago. Scatched a print about 20 years ago. Both instances were due to equipment failures. (one in a BX-60 sitting on top an Eprad Sword, and the other was a sprung film trap on a Pro-35 because some doofus dropped the damn thing and didn't say anything about it. I average about 1 OOF come-on per year, and that's because I was not paying attention.  |  IP: Logged Darren Crimmins Expert Film Handler Posts: 130 From: Dallas, TX, USA Registered: Jan 2002 posted 07-02-2004 10:11 PM                     Paul, I am not sure if you really know what you are getting yourself into. I work with Brad at a couple of theaters and know exactly which theater he is going to want you to work at. It is not a traditional booth and no matter how much experience you have, something will trip you up and cause you to loose the bet. Just giving you some friendly advice to think about before getting involoved in anything like this.  |  IP: Logged Paul G. Thompson The Weenie Man Posts: 4718 From: Mount Vernon WA USA Registered: Nov 2000 posted 07-02-2004 10:17 PM                     I know what I am getting myself into. I was trained by the best there is, shattered the 35mm MPO school record, and been in all types of booths for 35 years now. I think this would be fun. If Brad wants me to buy the print if I damage it, he'll have to make sure I start with a brand new print - not one HOS that has been through his or anybody else's machines. And then, if some freak thing happens with the machines that may damage the print that was due to some mechanical failure of the equipment, he can stuff the print up his RRR! If this battle comes to pass, it won't be overnight. It will take time. I have a 93 year old father in poor health, a mother that is not too far from the same age, a thransmitter installation, a couple of service calls, and other personal plans. When the time is right, it'll happen.  |  IP: Logged Jason Burroughs Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 654 From: Allen, TX Registered: Jun 99 posted 07-02-2004 10:22 PM                     I'd have to 2nd Darren's statement. Either of the booths that Brad could wager the bet at are faily complex, and very un-standard in many repects. While I may be just a "kid" I do know that to run the booth there, it takes learning quite a few new tricks.  |  IP: Logged Brad Miller Administrator Posts: 17775 From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall) Registered: May 99 posted 07-02-2004 10:22 PM                     Paul, you will be running whatever movies are currently playing. The day before you start, you may screen in part or their entirity any and all prints. You won't find any marks though. And unless you are abusive to the equipment, it won't break. Just remember your words and attitude regarding this situation. You will in all probability be eating them later and yes there will be video downloads. Reread Darren's post. I'm not going to dump you into any kind of normal booth! hehehe  |  IP: Logged Paul G. Thompson The Weenie Man Posts: 4718 From: Mount Vernon WA USA Registered: Nov 2000 posted 07-02-2004 10:23 PM                     We'll see...I am not as stupid as many of you think. Sometimes I get the impression you guys think I don't know what I am doing in a booth. If so, you are all in for a surprise. Now the more complicated the booth is, the more time I want to watch it run and analyze it. Each booth is different. Brad, send me a pic of the booth you intend to do this in, and be prepared to answer technical questions. I hope we can pull this challenge off. It would make my day.  |  IP: Logged Joe Redifer You need a beating today Posts: 12859 From: Denver, Colorado Registered: May 99 posted 07-02-2004 10:26 PM                        I ran one of Brad's booth's one night while he sat there and surfed the internet for porn to use on the intermission slides. It took me two sets to figure out what the hell was going on, and even then I surely wasn't 100% confident about it. I even threaded a movie for Jason (he wanted to watch the Olsen twins movie) and I even "missed a spot" on that one. No damage of course, but still. Wow.  |  IP: Logged Brad Miller Administrator Posts: 17775 From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall) Registered: May 99 posted 07-02-2004 10:27 PM                     Pictures??? Oh no, that's cheating! A PROFESSIONAL can waltz into any ol' booth and figure things out. YOUR WORDS! You don't need pictures. (Suddenly I feel evil, like Phil!) Joe, remember now, all you did was thread a couple of shows that day...nothing fancy. Think he could handle some of the more "fun" things we do?  |  IP: Logged Paul G. Thompson The Weenie Man Posts: 4718 From: Mount Vernon WA USA Registered: Nov 2000 posted 07-02-2004 10:29 PM                     Joe, as long as you put your pants on the same way as everyone else - one leg at a time - and as long as you shit between your heels, you are gonna f*** up. Remember, nobody is perfect. F****** up is a normal part of life. Brad, I had to walk in strange booths and get them on the screen. Several of those booths I never ever been in. But still, the shows went without a hitch. I am not lying about that, either! One was a 6-Plex Christie booth, and I haven't been in one of those for years. I had to rely on my previous knowledge as a service tech and general showmanship/pojectionist duties that I have accrued trough the years. I was quite proud of that one. But Brad, if you think a Cessna pilot will perfectly fly a Boeing 757 aircraft without any training, you have a brown stain in your undies. Like booth for a like booth...that's what I am asking for.  |  IP: Logged

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