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Steve Kraus
Film God

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From: Chicago, IL, USA
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 - posted 08-10-2004 06:45 PM      Profile for Steve Kraus     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I think perhaps you are missing the point. Who is asking for a demonstration? You? Who are you? They don't need to prove anything to you.

If the studios who are purchasing this optional service from the labs (or whoever may be licensing it or otherwise profiting from it) aren't sure it works they would run their own tests quietly. They certainly aren't going to have someone with a website broadcasting that a particular antipiracy scheme doesn't work. I hardly think they would see a benefit to that. No, they would investigate themselves and if it isn't working go back to the purveyors to adjust it so that it does work. Maybe that's how we went from CAP Code to crap code in the first place.

I'm also not sure why you think it doesn't work, as blatant as it is or that it's easily circumvented. (I'm not sure which if either you are asserting.) Would you go through the whole tape a frame at a time looking for dots to paint out? Even if you found them all alterations are usually detectable and a slight variation in frame count among different instances could form a code itself.

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Brad Miller
Administrator

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From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall)
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 - posted 08-10-2004 06:56 PM      Profile for Brad Miller   Author's Homepage   Email Brad Miller       Edit/Delete Post 
You're right, they don't need to prove anything to me. I never said that. However they really SHOULD prove this to all of the people who are paying hundreds of billions of trazillions of flabillions of flutillions of crazillions of poopillions of dollars every year to watch these blatantly marked prints.

Still you missed my point, I don't think any tests for studios have recently been done. I think the studios are just blindly paying for it because it's just the past routine. I am only pushing the issue because despite what you think, there are plenty of studio people who do lurk to see what people like us are saying, and maybe it will spark an interest in a test (hopefully not a rigged one).

(Industry revenue numbers quoted from any random Jack Valenti speech.)

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Phil Hill
I love my cootie bug

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From: Hollywood, CA USA
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 - posted 08-10-2004 07:47 PM      Profile for Phil Hill   Email Phil Hill       Edit/Delete Post 
Brad, how much are they paying? I forgot.

>>> Phil

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Matthew Jaro
Film Handler

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From: Gaithersburg, MD, USA
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 - posted 08-10-2004 08:49 PM      Profile for Matthew Jaro   Author's Homepage   Email Matthew Jaro   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Phil -- Stop being nasty. I think it's a great idea and we should seriously think of ways to do it.

So far Brad is the only one to come up with ANY kind of idea that might make a difference and he gets dissed.

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Brad Miller
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 - posted 08-10-2004 08:57 PM      Profile for Brad Miller   Author's Homepage   Email Brad Miller       Edit/Delete Post 
Oh never mind ol' Cootzilla, he's just having his fun.

BTW, that was hundreds of billions of trazillions of flabillions of flutillions of crazillions of poopillions of dollars being spent to watch crappy prints.

(Please note - industry revenue numbers quoted from any random Jack Valenti speech.)

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Phil Hill
I love my cootie bug

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From: Hollywood, CA USA
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 - posted 08-10-2004 08:58 PM      Profile for Phil Hill   Email Phil Hill       Edit/Delete Post 
Wake Up, Matthew! I'm not dishing him! I'm harrasing him!

Get real!

>>> Phil

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Matthew Jaro
Film Handler

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 - posted 08-10-2004 09:11 PM      Profile for Matthew Jaro   Author's Homepage   Email Matthew Jaro   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Well thats better --- he deserves to be harrassed.

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