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Author Topic: The Incredibles Print - Reel Change Indicators Brad Miller Administrator Posts: 17775 From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall) Registered: May 99 posted 11-03-2004 06:44 PM                     Those Star Wars dots were very annoying. If Pixar really wanted to be cutsie about something and break SMPTE standards for marking changeovers, why not make the reel changes such that every time the main character burps, you start the motor and then have him fart 24 frames before the end of the reel? That I could go for.  |  IP: Logged Jon Miller Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 973 From: San Diego, CA, USA Registered: Sep 1999 posted 11-03-2004 07:03 PM                     ...And, Brad, that would make running changeovers an absolute gas! The problem is that it would make it difficult to confirm the cues upon inspection (if, say, a character lets one loose without jerking or flinching) and that would lead to poorly-made homemade cues, a practice which has already been deservedly beaten to death in this forum. Makes me yearn for good 'ol time-tested cigarette burns...  |  IP: Logged Daryl C. W. O'Shea Film God Posts: 3977 From: Midland Ontario Canada (where Panavision & IMAX lenses come from) Registered: Jun 2002 posted 11-03-2004 07:06 PM                        quote: John Hawkinson Again, if it makes you smile, and doesn't hurt anything, it is a good thing. So I guess it's a bad thing then, since straying from good and well established standards in very rarely a good thing. quote: Brad Miller why not make the reel changes such that every time the main character burps, you start the motor and then have him fart 24 frames before the end of the reel? That I could go for. That would be just great for booths where you can't hear the booth monitor from both projectors, or from between the projectors while both are running. Great idea.  |  IP: Logged Brad Miller Administrator Posts: 17775 From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall) Registered: May 99 posted 11-03-2004 07:14 PM                     Haha. Oh well guys, at least I got a laugh out of your responses. Anyway, I'm against changeover cues in the first place. Any good changeover operator can do the job without any markings on the film anyway, but obviously after almost a century, the practice won't change for a variety of reasons.  |  IP: Logged Phil Hill I love my cootie bug Posts: 7595 From: Hollywood, CA USA Registered: Mar 2000 posted 11-03-2004 07:18 PM                  quote: Brad Miller Any good changeover operator can do the job without any markings on the film... Ummmm... So, Grand-Poo-BAH, I take it you've been talkin' to Will and/or smokin' that I-30 stuff, huh? NOT everyone runs platters and/or are psychics ya know! >>> Phil  |  IP: Logged Daryl C. W. O'Shea Film God Posts: 3977 From: Midland Ontario Canada (where Panavision & IMAX lenses come from) Registered: Jun 2002 posted 11-03-2004 07:29 PM                        Manual changeovers, as I've noted before, are easy to do without visible cues, but are a lot easier if you can start the incoming machine while standing beside the outgoing machine. Any idiot can do automated changeovers.  |  IP: Logged Brad Miller Administrator Posts: 17775 From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall) Registered: May 99 posted 11-03-2004 07:30 PM                     Ok Phil, for $1000 I'll give you training on how to do a manual changeover (no automation assistance of any kind) with no markings on the film. Cash only though. quote: Daryl C. W. O'Shea Any idiot can do automated changeovers. No so Mr. Daryl. If you think an idiot can actually put the cues on the proper places, you're nuts.  |  IP: Logged Daryl C. W. O'Shea Film God Posts: 3977 From: Midland Ontario Canada (where Panavision & IMAX lenses come from) Registered: Jun 2002 posted 11-03-2004 07:32 PM                        I've got a bunch of idiots doing just that every week. Maybe the average idiot up here is a lot smarter than down there.  |  IP: Logged Phil Hill I love my cootie bug Posts: 7595 From: Hollywood, CA USA Registered: Mar 2000 posted 11-03-2004 07:38 PM                  Sorry Brad, I'm flying up to Ontario next weekend. Daryl is only going to charge me US$100 to show me. Screw you and your $1k! >>> Phil  |  IP: Logged Brad Miller Administrator Posts: 17775 From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall) Registered: May 99 posted 11-03-2004 08:50 PM                     But Phil, it's $100 for the training, and $900 for putting up with you!  |  IP: Logged Daryl C. W. O'Shea Film God Posts: 3977 From: Midland Ontario Canada (where Panavision & IMAX lenses come from) Registered: Jun 2002 posted 11-03-2004 08:52 PM                        Phil's going to sleep on Gordon's couch.  |  IP: Logged Brad Miller Administrator Posts: 17775 From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall) Registered: May 99 posted 11-03-2004 08:56 PM                     That would be a great picture, Phil sleeping with Gordon's super fat pussy.  |  IP: Logged Phil Hill I love my cootie bug Posts: 7595 From: Hollywood, CA USA Registered: Mar 2000 posted 11-03-2004 08:57 PM                  quote: Grand-Poo-BAH But Phil, it's $100 for the training, and $900 for putting up with you! Oh PULEEZE, Brad! If that was true, you'd owe me $1200 for putting up with YOU! BTW Daryl: I thought we agreed to spend the night together at the Notel Motel in Ontario? You were going to pay for the room... >>> Phil  |  IP: Logged Daryl C. W. O'Shea Film God Posts: 3977 From: Midland Ontario Canada (where Panavision & IMAX lenses come from) Registered: Jun 2002 posted 11-03-2004 09:00 PM                        You mean the nice one just down the road from the drive-in in St. Catherines? I said I'd pay for my room, you were going to pay for my entertainment (and your own room).  |  IP: Logged Phil Hill I love my cootie bug Posts: 7595 From: Hollywood, CA USA Registered: Mar 2000 posted 11-03-2004 09:03 PM                  quote: Daryl C. W. O'Shea You mean the nice one just down the road from the drive-in in St. Catherines Yes...that's the one. I need to go to confession at the St. Catherine's Catholic chuch the next morning... >>> Phil  |  IP: Logged

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