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Tim Reed
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 - posted 06-16-2005 02:50 PM      Profile for Tim Reed   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
It always amazed me how water didn't conduct carbon contacts to ground, in those systems fed by city supplies. They always dumped into a sink, or outside the booth on the ground.

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Dave Macaulay
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 - posted 06-16-2005 08:23 PM      Profile for Dave Macaulay   Email Dave Macaulay   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I worked at a semiconductor plant in Ottawa about 30 years ago, and we could get all sorts of interesting stuff to play with... I mean use in our work. Liquid helium is interesting stuff. Ultrapure water actively attacks some materials, acting sort of like an acid and alkali simultaneously. We had some rubber stoppers that, if placed in a beaker of ultrapure water, would fizz and bubble like mad for a few seconds until the water was not so ultrapure.

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Matthew Bailey
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 - posted 06-16-2005 10:02 PM      Profile for Matthew Bailey   Email Matthew Bailey   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I've seen some booths use a water circulator with Gorman-Rupp or Gorman-Rupp Industries brand pumps- http://www.gripumps.com
click on products & then centrifugal pumps- with low failure rate under nomal use.

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Chad Souder
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I just got a new Kinoton with a Ballantyne water circulator, so now I'll bump this back up to ask a question. For those of you using some automotive additive, how often are you changing out the water completely? Do you see it turning thick or gunky after awhile? I'm using distilled water, do you have any problem with algae or any other molds?

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John Pytlak
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 - posted 05-11-2006 09:25 AM      Profile for John Pytlak   Author's Homepage   Email John Pytlak   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Warm water can encourage the growth of algae or mold. At the very least, use a biocide additive like the ones used in portable household humidifiers. Some projectionists use dilute ethylene glycol automotive antifreeze, which usually also has corrosion inhibitors.

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Chad Souder
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 - posted 05-11-2006 10:14 AM      Profile for Chad Souder   Email Chad Souder   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
any problem mixing the two?

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John Pytlak
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If you decide to use dilute automotive antifreeze, it should also inhibit biological growth.

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Eric Robinson
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 - posted 05-11-2006 02:33 PM      Profile for Eric Robinson   Email Eric Robinson   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I have a "wrong" international pump which just kicked the bucket and the breaker panel too.

Anyway, I want to get rid of the antifreeze fluid which is now polluted with burnt up submersible pump particles. Does anyone know how to dispose of this liquid?

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John Pytlak
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 - posted 05-11-2006 03:14 PM      Profile for John Pytlak   Author's Homepage   Email John Pytlak   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Some anti-freeze manufacturers have recycling programs:

EPA Ethylene Glycol letter

quote:
This request was posed in order in the context of a spent antifreeze recycling program, wherein
spent antifreeze generated from radiator flushes done at automobile service centers (specifically,
Valvoline Instant Oil Change stores) is collected, stored and sent for recycling at Union Carbide’s
Glycol Recovery Unit in Institute, West Virginia. The specific questions you raised relate to the
practical difficulties of generating and characterizing spent antifreeze, where one radiator flush may be
hazardous and the next flush nonhazardous...

You might be able to have it properly recycled by your local automobile service shop:

http://www.forsea.org/pugetsoundbook/carcare.html

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Disposing of antifreeze is also a problem. Antifreeze contains ethylene glycol which is poisonous to fish, wildlife and people. Many cats and dogs have died after drinking the sweet tasting puddles of antifreeze left on driveways. Do not dispose of antifreeze down storm drains, instead ask you local service station to add the liquid to their used anti-freeze storage drum. If your household is connected to a central sewer system, call your wastewater utility for specific guidance in disposing of anti-freeze.
http://www.colorado-recycles.org/referencelibrary/recyclingtips/anitfreeze.html

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A Wonderful, But Hazardous, Product

Antifreeze is hazardous. Ethylene glycol is a toxic chemical that requires proper handling, storage and disposal to avoid harming humans, animals and the environment. One of the properties of ethylene glycol is that it is a sweet-tasting liquid which makes it attractive to animals and small children. Unfortunately, it is very poisonous and each year thousands of dogs, cats and other animals die from lapping up pools of antifreeze that have accumulated on streets and in parking areas. There have been many cases of human poisonings and deaths over the years, predominantly among small children. The Centers for Diseases Control and Prevention provides a considerable amount of useful information about poisonings and poisoning prevention on its website at http://www.cdc.gov/ncipc/factsheets/poisoning.htm .

As a broad generalization, orange colored antifreeze is an indication that the antifreeze is manufactured for more extended uses, and has a longer service life than does green antifreeze. However, under no circumstances should green and orange antifreezes be mixed together because the enhanced properties of the orange antifreeze will be diminished.

Used antifreeze may also contain levels of dissolved heavy metals that can be toxic to animal life and may contaminate soils, water and sediments. If ethylene glycol biodegrades in large quantities, it can deplete the levels of dissolved oxygen in surface waters, killing aquatic organisms. Antifreeze picks up many contaminants from engine operation in addition to some heavy metals. It will also pick up toxins such as benzene. That is why antifreeze must be tested to determine whether or not it falls under the classification as being a hazardous waste.



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System Notices
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 - posted 10-13-2007 09:28 AM      Profile for System Notices         Edit/Delete Post 

It has been 519 days since the last post.


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Jeffry Wilde
Film Handler

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I have never had a problem with one.

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Brad Miller
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 - posted 10-13-2007 12:40 PM      Profile for Brad Miller   Author's Homepage   Email Brad Miller       Edit/Delete Post 
That's awesome, and I know you are new since this is your first post, but could you not go dredging up two year old threads when you have nothing to add to them?

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Mark Gulbrandsen
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 - posted 10-13-2007 06:54 PM      Profile for Mark Gulbrandsen   Email Mark Gulbrandsen   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
quote: Jeffry Wilde
I have never had a problem with one.

You will eventually!

Mark

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