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Monte L Fullmer
Film God

Posts: 8367
From: Nampa, Idaho, USA
Registered: Nov 2004

posted 04-26-2006 03:39 AM

quote: Eric Robinson
Anyway, now that I'm completey off track...it sounds as if we are not supposed to have any leader running through the machine. If this were true; however, this would imply that the beginning of the green band for the first trailer would have its head located at the basement sound head lower feed sprocket???

Eric - just keep on doing as what you're doing now...nobody can tell you different.

All of us do presentations in our own different way.

Some liked my post here on the Simplex threading, and some didn't like it for the fear of scratching film due to the loop sizes.

I posted this info as a potiental 'training' guide - but not to be taken as gospel-the same with Brad's "Threading 101". That is the final say with that operator..or booth supervisor if any outside threading guide is to be accepted or not.

I'd probably get shot and booted off of this forum in a heartbeat if any member of this forum saw what I do when getting the movie on the screen - and it's simply different what the next theatre does..and how they have been taught.

Nobody's going to get grumpy on you on what you do, and if they do...they'll have two choices: either to either put up with it or leave, but they'd better not say anything when they do leave.

What Brad's trying to do with this site is to help the newcomers with tremendous info on the field of presentations and with technical information so that they can be more self sufficent in taking care of their locations with more understanding on "how stuff works".

Some of us have been in this field WAY TOO LONG (lol) to where we actually see a lot of this stuff posted as 'old hat' stuff, and where others see a lot of this as massive 'learning candy.'

Why some of us 'oldsters' are on here - to put some input on all of this due to our experiences we've had.

-Monte

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Kacie MacLagan
Film Handler

Posts: 5
From: Portage, MI, United States
Registered: Feb 2006

posted 04-26-2006 09:38 PM

quote: Eric Robinson
Anyway, now that I'm completey off track...it sounds as if we are not supposed to have any leader running through the machine. If this were true; however, this would imply that the beginning of the green band for the first trailer would have its head located at the basement sound head lower feed sprocket???

I can say that at our chain, it is sugguested that you have the actual movie (or trailer/ad/whatever) start when the change-over kicks in. With our equipment when the automation opens the change-over it also activates the lights and sound processor. The reason behind this is because if you have the leader goes through after the processor has switched the sound to SR/SA/DTS/etc, it will/could leave a slight buzz or humm in the theater speakers.

That is of course the general idea, and what I have been told (and I have heard it first hand) it should be done. Your theater maybe different, and it may not be the same for all equipment/sound processors/automations. I only know what happens with the equipment we have in our chain.

Hope this helps. If any.

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Eric Robinson
Jedi Master Film Handler

Posts: 538
From: Santa Rosa, CA
Registered: Jan 2005

posted 04-28-2006 12:17 AM

Sounds like the best thing to do is to stick with my current method, keeping in mind to avoid having the processor switch to analog before a valid soundtrack is in the basement. I am familiar with the odd and undesired sounds which eminate from leader and other parts of film which should not be broadcasted through the audio system.

Thanks Monte...I always enjoy hearing your comments. I think this topic, (created by you), is an excellent documentation of film threading. I also appreciate your helpful disposition.

Cheers... [Wink]

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Monte L Fullmer
Film God

Posts: 8367
From: Nampa, Idaho, USA
Registered: Nov 2004

posted 04-29-2006 01:33 PM

quote: Eric Robinson
I am familiar with the odd and undesired sounds which eminate from leader and other parts of film which should not be broadcasted through the audio system.

Eric, you're welcome as always and glad to be of service to you.

What you CAN do is to buy some solid black leader with the white framelines so that you can add a good 10 ft section of this black at the end of the threading leader. Thus, when the dowser opens, it opens in the black of the leader - you have no unwanted sound and the screen is black until the green of the rating tag for the trailer hits the screen.

Lot of operators do this if they have units with timed dowser openings. This is what great with the 3Q system with Christie having a cued dowser opening - dowser opens when you want it to.

-monte

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