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Author Topic: Proper/Improper use of FilmGuard Mike Blakesley Film God Posts: 12767 From: Forsyth, Montana Registered: Jun 99 posted 08-21-2006 12:28 PM                        quote: Steve Guttag by not cutting the media down first, the second usage gets a more liberal amount of media/FG than the first usage. Sheeesh, I never thought of that. Of course you are right. Well what I will do in the future is cut off the "dirty" part after the first week and wind onto the now-empty takeup spool. That'll still enable me to soak each roll of media one time.  |  IP: Logged Brad Miller Administrator Posts: 17775 From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall) Registered: May 99 posted 08-21-2006 01:23 PM                     Nope, because after a week the FG is mostly evaporated. You will still need to resaturate once a week.  |  IP: Logged Charles Greenlee Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 801 From: Savannah, Ga, U.S. Registered: Jun 2006 posted 08-21-2006 06:08 PM                        I wish we could run our tapes longer than 1 week. Because we only have 1 cleaner for 6 projectors, by the time it gets back to a projector, the film is dirty enough to constitute not using that portion of the roll again. However, with the currnt short films we have, I can clean 3/roll, then reverse the tape and use the backside to clean 3 more, total of 6. Then the roll is pretty much used up. So each film only can get cleaned once per week since no one else does it.  |  IP: Logged Jack Ondracek Film God Posts: 2348 From: Port Orchard, WA, USA Registered: Oct 2002 posted 08-21-2006 09:09 PM                        quote: Brad Miller Nope, because after a week the FG is mostly evaporated. You will still need to resaturate once a week. I've noticed that, Brad. I recall early literature saying something about Filmguard staying on a print for a year before it would evaporate. Is this something different?  |  IP: Logged Brad Miller Administrator Posts: 17775 From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall) Registered: May 99 posted 08-21-2006 09:44 PM                     You will notice between 6-12 months worth of "life" of FG on a print before it evaporates. In some instances depending on the film stock and how it is stored, it may last a little longer. However the media pads don't have that kind of shelf life, if that makes sense.  |  IP: Logged Jack Ondracek Film God Posts: 2348 From: Port Orchard, WA, USA Registered: Oct 2002 posted 08-22-2006 12:08 AM                        Yep, I can see that.  |  IP: Logged System Notices Forum Watchdog / Soup Nazi Posts: 215 Registered: Apr 2004 posted 01-14-2008 01:08 PM                 It has been 510 days since the last post.  |  IP: Logged Carey Barber Expert Film Handler Posts: 143 From: Newport News, VA, USA Registered: Jan 2003 posted 01-14-2008 01:08 PM                     I had a question about the routine for applying for Film Guard. We have 6 cleaners and 23 35mm houses. __________________________________________________________ Here is our current schedule: 1. On Thursday,all pads are replaced and saturated. EVERY new print gets a run thru the cleaner during the inspection screening with brand new pads. 2. The new films will also be cleaned during the first day of shows to the public. 3. The film cleaners are moved around throughout the week so that every print gets a full-day's worth of cleaning. (Some prints will get 2 full days). 4. On Monday of every week, we re-saturate the pads. We DO NOT replace them, just give them another spray. __________________________________________________________ Here is my question: Is it necessary/recommended that we re-saturate the pads on Monday, or is that just a waste of Film Guard? Also, if you notice any other problems with this procedure please let me know. Thanks, Carey  |  IP: Logged Brad Miller Administrator Posts: 17775 From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall) Registered: May 99 posted 01-14-2008 11:40 PM                     Ideally every time the cleaner moves to another print that it hasn't cleaned before that week you should resaturate the pads. As you have no doubt noticed, it doesn't take a whole lot to get them wet again.  |  IP: Logged Peter David Bruce Expert Film Handler Posts: 187 From: East Anglia -England Registered: Aug 2007 posted 02-03-2008 08:21 AM                    Digesting film guard Inhaling film guard fumes Film guard on your skin Film guard in your eyes. well, what are the dangers of this stuff? all the bottle says is 'not to be taken internally' keen to know! OH and we have been instructed by our technicians (for the company) that we shouldnt put anything at all on the cleaning pads. running a dry film cleaner??? id rather not.  |  IP: Logged Chris Slycord Film God Posts: 2986 From: 청주시, 경북도, South Korea Registered: Mar 2007 posted 02-03-2008 01:17 PM                     The reason they advise you not to use it is that because some people don't read directions correctly and misuse the stuff, thereby creating problems. Like I've heard of places not wanting to use the stuff because their prints got too oily and would slide then get thrown, which I would bet is because they were applying it liberally. And if you're worried about the dangers of the stuff... email Brad for the MSDS (Material Safety Data Sheet).  |  IP: Logged Mike Olpin Chop Chop! Posts: 1852 From: Dallas, TX Registered: Jan 2002 posted 02-03-2008 02:13 PM                     Peter, your booth supplier should be able to provide you with MSDS sheets for FilmGuard. If you work at Regal, MSDS sheets for all products can be found via the online web help at Port Regal. If you are still unable to find MSDS sheets, email Brad. Dry film pads are fine, albeit not as effective, however they cannot be re-used. Also be cautious, as some brands of media pads can scratch the print. Edit: Oh, I see your from England, never mind about the Regal instructions then.  |  IP: Logged Peter David Bruce Expert Film Handler Posts: 187 From: East Anglia -England Registered: Aug 2007 posted 02-03-2008 02:37 PM                    cheers guys. yeah i think i can get the MSDS sheets from head office. the pads we have here are the actual filmtech ones. guess you cant get better than that! thanks for letting me know not to reuse dry ones. unfortunately that means we will now get through them alot faster. 6 screens, 13-14 prints every weekend.... peter  |  IP: Logged Robert W. Jones Film Handler Posts: 74 From: San Antonio, TX Registered: Mar 2007 posted 02-03-2008 02:41 PM                     At home, I apply it with an old Ecco film cleaner with dual media pads. I've never noticed any streaking using a power rewind at about 1000 ftm with the flow set to two drops per minute. Works fine. Two minutes per reel wind time. Then rewind back through the cleaner with no drip. With my Kelmar cleaner, I spray the pads then use a cotton cloth to slightly squeeze and distribute the film guard on the pads. No problem with streaking after the initial check run.  |  IP: Logged Peter David Bruce Expert Film Handler Posts: 187 From: East Anglia -England Registered: Aug 2007 posted 02-03-2008 02:44 PM                    Cheers, robert. we use the ecco cleaner. theyve done us proud for about 15 years  |  IP: Logged

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