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Author Topic: New 70mm Print of "West Side Story"!!! Jonathan Goeldner Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1360 From: Washington, District of Columbia Registered: Jun 2008 posted 02-12-2011 06:14 PM                     a few things I noticed about the 70mm print last night at the AFI Silver was that one major flaw occurs at the beginning of the dance at the gym - the print becomes slightly fuzzy and a tad devoid of color. Only once during a reel change does the next scene actually shudders up and down, it's very brief thankfully. The second act the image/color/print state seems more consistent and visually stunning. As for the sound, the five across sound really is impressive [sans one moment where the police lieutenant's voice when he talks to the Jets on the playground does his voice echo to the L/C channel]. The sound seems strident at times, but by the second act the crescendo's seem tighter and better implemented - while the print had it's flaws, I thought the sound though was the real star here. Oh and the AFI Silver used the screen curtains to excellent effect  |  IP: Logged Frank Angel Film God Posts: 5305 From: Brooklyn NY USA Registered: Dec 1999 posted 02-13-2011 01:50 PM                        Johathan, did they insert an intermission or did it play through?  |  IP: Logged Steve Guttag We forgot the crackers Gromit!!! Posts: 12814 From: Annapolis, MD Registered: Dec 1999 posted 02-13-2011 06:28 PM                     Speaking from the booth... We used the intermission.  |  IP: Logged Frank Angel Film God Posts: 5305 From: Brooklyn NY USA Registered: Dec 1999 posted 02-15-2011 06:53 AM                        Steve --  |  IP: Logged Robert Throop Master Film Handler Posts: 412 From: Vernon, NY USA Registered: Jun 99 posted 02-15-2011 07:08 AM                     I was at the Friday night show. The presentation was flawless. It was awesome to see this classic in 70mm and hear the original sound mix. I was under the impression that Robert Wise did not want an intermission as he didn't want to interrupt the emotional flow and that the original roadshows didn't use it. Was I misinformed?  |  IP: Logged Frank Angel Film God Posts: 5305 From: Brooklyn NY USA Registered: Dec 1999 posted 02-15-2011 09:27 AM                        I ran a brand new 35mm print (was only run once before we got it) about 3 years ago. Granted it wasn't a 70mm print, but it was supposed to be identical to and was sold to us as a Roadshow print. It had no intermission.  |  IP: Logged Steve Guttag We forgot the crackers Gromit!!! Posts: 12814 From: Annapolis, MD Registered: Dec 1999 posted 02-15-2011 10:38 AM                     The intermission on our print was "mid reel." In that it was at the end of reel 6A. Part 2 started on reel 6B They shipped Reels 6A and 6B on separate reels. And it was Dave Hoag that gave you your flawless show! -Steve  |  IP: Logged Jonathan Goeldner Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1360 From: Washington, District of Columbia Registered: Jun 2008 posted 02-15-2011 04:11 PM                     I even remember the 70mm print that DC's Uptown Theatre ran a number years back and it also had the intermission.  |  IP: Logged Steve Guttag We forgot the crackers Gromit!!! Posts: 12814 From: Annapolis, MD Registered: Dec 1999 posted 02-15-2011 04:54 PM                     And I ran that print too! It is odd, but creating the "Roadshow" performance is something that one picks up. That is, knowing the cues for when to dim the lights/part/close the curtain...etc. It had been many years since I ran that movie (and it isn't one I particularly like) and it still seemed quite familiar. -Steve  |  IP: Logged Frank Angel Film God Posts: 5305 From: Brooklyn NY USA Registered: Dec 1999 posted 02-16-2011 06:55 AM                        Exactly, Steve. And you can create that Roadshow "feel" with those other elements you mention and not necessarily have been sent a full roadshow print, especially nowadays, because you can get all the music elements from the DVD as I've had to do a number of times. I mean, it's nice playing them off the print in black, but with a little dexterity (and a sound system that allows you to MIX non-sync with filmsound rather than just switch from one to the other), you can get the same results. A true first run Roadshow presentation wouldn't have had ANYTHING run before the feature, but that is something management won't put up with as much as I wish I could recreate that same experience. I am at least able to drop the cartoon but am forced to run the attractions. OK, so what to do to counter that intrusion on the audience? I get distance between the non-Roadshow gack and the feature (the CinEvent, as we call it). I do a curtain close after the attractions and cue a lighting change. I darken the house lights, reduce the curtain warmer light level and change their color hue (nice to have full theatrical lighting with two color washes for the curtains and a lighting console that lets me do this). This makes the audience aware that there is a significant division between the pre-feature stuff that doesn't belong there in the first place, and the movie. I wait about a 90 seconds in full silence to create a sense of antipation. Only THEN do I start the Overture music. Come the Intermission, if there is no actual Intermission frame on the print as does happen, I do have at the ready a generic snipe that I had Filmack create for us -- simple text INTERMISSION in the center on a blue-black background; it works fine. Of course if you don't have a correctly designed, fully equipped theatre -- you know, one without a working curtian, which for me is like going into a 5 star restaurant and finding they don't have table cloths or napkins -- then, well, let's face it....you're doomed.  |  IP: Logged Jonathan Goeldner Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1360 From: Washington, District of Columbia Registered: Jun 2008 posted 02-16-2011 09:00 PM                     I just find it sad and unfortunate in this day and age, they 'we' have to be reminded to turn off our cel phones, pagers, thing's that go 'ping' If the AFI Silver didn't have to display its 'silence yourself' slide - the feature wouldn't have had to begin with that slide and the famous beginning whistle on the soundtrack. ["awkward"]  |  IP: Logged

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