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Author Topic: AMC now leaving green bands on? Ron Curran Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 504 From: Springwood NSW Australia Registered: Feb 2006 posted 09-03-2006 01:54 AM                        Here in Australia (as I have said in a previous post) classification tags on the head of each trailer are compulsory - it is illegal not to include them once the government classifies the film. At least they are now animated. Prior to classification, trailers have an advertising approval tag which is also compulsory. This must be removed and replaced with the appropriate tag as soon as the feature is classified. (which is usually just after you have loaded the whole programme on the platter). obviously things are a bit easier in the land of the free.  |  IP: Logged John Koutsoumis Master Film Handler Posts: 261 From: Melbourne, Victoria, Australia Registered: Aug 2003 posted 09-03-2006 05:42 AM                     Over here in the past there was a few occasions where I swear I did not see the OFLC (Office of Film and Literature Classification) tags. I could be wrong though. This was sometime in the past. Also the OFLC came down on several operators for not following procedure and showing MA15 rated trailers and the head of PG rated films which is a big no-no (I think these were art house locations that did not have any other PG films coming up in the near future) and a few other issues. Although I no longer see films in Theatres (yes I wait for DVD, not that I watch many new releases anyway) I think having the tags are better instead of going bam straight into the next one particularly if they are loud action film ones.  |  IP: Logged Jesse Skeen Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1517 From: Sacramento, CA Registered: Aug 2000 posted 09-03-2006 11:23 AM                     A couple studios got upset when they found out Regal was cutting them off. If AMC and Cinemark are still doing it, that means nobody who works for them cares about it and nobody's been checking their presentation. It still amazes me that they would make something that looks so unprofessional "Company Policy", and yet not make other things that make sense in good presentation "Company Policy".  |  IP: Logged Steve Scott Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1300 From: Minneapolis, MN Registered: Sep 2000 posted 09-03-2006 01:10 PM                     It's a metaphor by way of how awful their policy trailers look  |  IP: Logged Paul Konen Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 981 From: Frisco, TX. (North of Dallas) Registered: Jun 99 posted 09-03-2006 02:37 PM                     Yes, D-Cinema trailers are starting to come with the green band attached. I tried to complain about it, but some studios are requiring that the trailer be coded with the green band. I, too, liked it when the green band was separate from the trailer file. They also are encoding the blue band on the end of the feature. Makes extra work for the encoding company because then they have to make unique files for each country that has different rating systems. They say it is to force us to play the blue band. Would be easier to just let us program it as part of our playlist.  |  IP: Logged Donna Siegwart Film Handler Posts: 63 From: Houston, TX Registered: Jun 2005 posted 09-03-2006 05:20 PM                        Yep its true about leaving the green bands on with AMC. We got an email a few weeks ago about it. I personally havent been putting films together as of lately, and apparently some of our managers didnt know about this change because when we went to check out some trailers yesterday on 'Wickerman' I was asked why we had the green bands on. I personally thought it was dumb of AMC to cut the green bands off, back when we were a Loews we always kept them on, then when AMC came in, they changed almost everything we did. Anyone get any complaints about previews on wickerman btw? I got some woman yellin' about the Texas Chainsaw Massacre trailer being on there, but it was on our memo to be added to the movie, so we really had no say in what was shown trailer wise. (sigh) and the trailer wasnt really that graphic either  |  IP: Logged Alex Grueneberg Expert Film Handler Posts: 125 From: Chicago, IL Registered: Aug 2004 posted 09-03-2006 10:42 PM                        If the trailer has a nice fade to black and the next one a slow fade out of black I agree its much smoother and keeps the "flow". However, personally a good stable well printed green band is great to focus on. PS: Century has always left them on.  |  IP: Logged Monte L Fullmer Film God Posts: 8367 From: Nampa, Idaho, USA Registered: Nov 2004 posted 09-04-2006 03:19 AM                     ..about the smoothest way to assemble trailers intact, is to do the procedures that are listed here in the "Tips" section. I've used this practice for quite the time -LONG before this guide was ever installed here on Film-Tech. Trust me, it does work well and makes the presentation more professional. Just bugs the crap out of me when I see a trailer pak that where the fade out just begins, then "WHAM!" opaque tape splice and the green tag - so gaudy and sloppy looking.  |  IP: Logged Scott Norwood Film God Posts: 8146 From: Boston, MA. USA (1774.21 miles northeast of Dallas) Registered: Jun 99 posted 09-04-2006 05:12 AM                        Agreed with Monte--it's always best to leave some as much black leader as possible between trailers, both for continuity (avoids the "rapid-fire-trailer" effect) and to hide the splices (even clear splicing tape is very visible on the green bands). One must be careful, though, as many trailers that I have seen lately have "sync pops" (quick beeps) in the tails and these should be removed. Also annoying is occasional markings on the film (such as little "X's" scratched into the negative on the "Hollywoodland" trailers) which must also be removed.  |  IP: Logged Caleb Johnstone-Cowan Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 593 From: London, UK Registered: Mar 2006 posted 09-04-2006 09:50 PM                     Couldn't you just have a policy for 30 seconds saying 'the following trailers are appropriate for the feature' instead of the MPAA stuff every time? Some exhibitors do this in the UK instead of displaying a BBFC certificate for every trailer.  |  IP: Logged Dustin Mitchell Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1865 From: Mondovi, WI, USA Registered: Mar 2000 posted 09-04-2006 10:02 PM                     I personally like the pause between every trailer. To me the green band is a good transition (combined with leaving appropriate amounts of black on the head/tail) between trailers.  |  IP: Logged Scott Norwood Film God Posts: 8146 From: Boston, MA. USA (1774.21 miles northeast of Dallas) Registered: Jun 99 posted 09-05-2006 07:14 AM                        Agreed with Dustin. If I had enough date strips to add "Starts Friday" or "Coming Soon" between every trailer or enough black leader to add 10-20 seconds of black between trailers, I could see getting rid of the ratings bands (as long as it didn't involve cutting into the soundtrack for the trailer), but the green/red band is "good enough" at providing space between trailers that I don't see the need to buy huge quantities of black leader or date strips.  |  IP: Logged Mark J. Marshall Film God Posts: 3188 From: New Castle, DE, USA Registered: Aug 2002 posted 09-05-2006 09:05 AM                    I can take or leave the green and red rating bands on trailers. I like the pauses between trailers that the bands provide. I also like the quick rapid fire method. The method I would like to use depends on the movie I'm showing. If I'm showing The Notebook, the bands are a nice way to break things up and make a slower relaxing pace for the audience to get them ready for the movie. If I'm showing Spiderman, bang-bang-bang makes things move faster, and gets the audience pumped and excited without giving them a break. Then they get a break with the studio logo, they catch their breath, and then the fun begins. So from my perspective, both methods have their place. Any global corporate wide policy on something like this that restricts showmanship and creativity in the presentation is counter productive. A simple "recommendation" from corporate would be wonderful.  |  IP: Logged Scott D. Neff Theatre Dork Posts: 919 From: San Francisco, CA Registered: Oct 1999 posted 09-05-2006 01:40 PM                        I consider the green bands a pallet cleansing between trailers. I can watch an action packed explodey trailer and when the green band hits the screen my brain has a moment to prepare itself for something else entirely. And with the way that EVERY single trailer nowadays has the silly last minute "shock" (a la the tire in Twister) I think you need the green band for separation.  |  IP: Logged Donna Siegwart Film Handler Posts: 63 From: Houston, TX Registered: Jun 2005 posted 09-08-2006 06:16 PM                        So why were the bands made green to begin with? Ive been curious, why not yellow, or blue? Anyone know the answer? (Im sure someone does)  |  IP: Logged

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