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Caleb Johnstone-Cowan
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 - posted 03-28-2007 09:45 PM      Profile for Caleb Johnstone-Cowan   Email Caleb Johnstone-Cowan   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Could use masking tape like a 16mm reel I was watching through a Steenbeck editing/viewing console. First time I'd ever used the thing, or 16mm for that matter. Probably four masking tape joins, did the first couple again with proper tape but the other parts are on cores or spools as test reels now. Really glad I didn't put it through the projector, especially on auto-thread.

If the two films are going to be released seperately in some markets won't they have to bump up the runtime? I'd feel seriously pissed off if a film was less than 80 minutes, Borat being the exception. Maybe they can find the missing reel...

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Dustin Mitchell
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Each feature is 90 minutes with the total runtime (including fake trailers) being 186 minutes.

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Ross Oba
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Wow, this is King Kong sized monster. Sucks to be an usher having to clean up all the urine.

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Joe Redifer
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Total runtime with typical real trailers, policy trailers, ads and such should be about 374 minutes.

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Carl Martin
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quote: Scott Norwood
Wouldn't it make more sense (and be less visible on screen) to cover the same number of perfs on each side of the cut? I would think that 4-perf or 8-perf tape would be more desirable than 5-perf.
boy is this the wrong thread for this, but what i do is cover 4 perfs on one side and one perf on the other side, choosing the darker or busier frame as the "one-perf" side.

this has never been a problem with neumade tape, though i'd be a little wary of trying it with some "slip'n'slide" brand of tape.

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Christopher Meredith
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All the joking aside, is anybody really going to treat this print any differently than all the others that come through our booths?

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Brett G. Sherris
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As far as I'm concerned, I think it would be great fun on Weinstein/Dimension's part to have a contest..."Most Creative" presentation of GRINDHOUSE. In other words, how the projectionist/cinema augments the print/theatre to most enhance the aesthetic of the grindhouse experience.

We're doing a one-off showing of the film was part of our summer late-nite horror/exploitation series, and I know that I will be considering entertaining ways to make the experience more fun for the audience.

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Caleb Johnstone-Cowan
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You could play the film in mono through the centre only. Although if it has any other format on the print then Tarantino and Rodriguez are pretty stupid.

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Brad Miller
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Oh geez that just made me realize something. Are they going to mix the tracks to simulate a mono auditorium complete with blown speakers??? I hope not. That would generate more complaints than it would be worth.

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John Stewart
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We premiered the film Wed night here in Austin and don't worry about the soundtracks. They are hot and plenty clean. The print arrives in 4 cans and as Part 1 reels 1 - 6 and Part 2 R1 - 6. The first film looks terrible as expected with all the fake scratches and white dirt and hair printed in. Also included is some "blank" leader included at the end of the 1st feature. I was lucky since this print had been plattered before so I didn't have to worry about where to cut.

Otherwise, it's a 3 hr 10 min. blood bath.

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Caleb Johnstone-Cowan
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So whilst the picture has been 'scratched' the soundtrack is perfect? Kinda ruins the illusion.

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Bobby Henderson
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I'll definitely see Grindhouse at least once at our local Carmike. The experience should be at least a little surreal with all those Christie and TI DLP promos giving way to a scratched up, faded and jittery movie. I'm sure there's going to be at least a few confused comments like, "...um, so this is 'digital cinema'?"
[Razz]

However, the temptation is definitely there to watch this movie in a really crappy theater or at least one that isn't well maintained. The Central Mall 12 might be a good choice since they have cheap projectors and play most movies in the glory of mono. On top of that, shootings and other crimes have occurred at this theater! Hooray for the criminal element! They can copy some of the acts of violence happening on screen right there in the auditorium, Rocky Horror style. The old Vaska theater in town has seen better days. It doesn't have any of the trappings of a movie theater chain, so it might be an even better viewing choice to fit that "grindhouse" style. You also don't have to worry so much about getting shot or beaten up there. Just have to wait for the movie to go 2nd run.

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Tim Reed
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Good point, Caleb.

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John Stewart
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The first "film" looks worse than any of the old prints I ever saw back in the 70's. Well, almost. Tons of white hairs, dirt and scratches which would have to be in the negative rather than "grindhouse" wear.

But the 2nd film looks great for super 35. Rodriguez had a remote control for the audio and played it plenty loud. Didn't need the monitor on in the booth. Ugh but the house was full and they screamed all night.

Yes, the audio was very good and clean and LOUD!

John

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Mike Schindler
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That's really cool, John. What would you say Rodriguez had the fader set to for the movie?

Are there any other cool tidbits like that that you can share about the premiere?

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