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Richard Fowler
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No mirror type models [Smile] Putting a 180 degree twist on the film stock prior to entering the picture head should work [Cool]

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Monte L Fullmer
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quote: Sebastian Binz
Viele Grüße aus Köln an die Nachbarn nach Luxemburg


(...roughly...) Many greetings out of Cologne at the neighbors to Luxembourg

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Brad Miller
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quote: Richard Fowler
Putting a 180 degree twist on the film stock prior to entering the picture head should work
That's going to be an interesting setup, as on a changeover house the two readers MUST be the same number of perforations from the gate. Also a 180 degree twist is going to require a certain amount of distance so the film isn't under too much stress. I can only see that maybe working if the two penthouse readers are mounted up relatively high against the auditorium wall, parallel to the wall, with the film comeing out of the bottom of the penthouse and doing a 90 degree twist to a roller that would be in line with the film path of the projector.

I've never seen a mirrored 35mm projector before. Who makes such a beast?

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Louis Bornwasser
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Mount both readers at 90 degrees; to ensure the same distance from gate. Height won't matter as long as it is enough.

(I won't suggest dual left/right basement readers, although that is what I would probably do.) Louis

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Richard Fowler
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Bauer and some other European makers used to offer Left - Right machines for small booths; You stand in the middle to thread both projectors......another version that Norelco and others made where double head mechanisms and lamphouses on a common pedestal.....

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Monte L Fullmer
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...and a few 16mm projectors (also European made) had left hand lacing as well for the same center operator,two machine concept.

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Phil Ranucci
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UC Santa Barbara had a pair of Hortsons (sp?)that both threaded on the opposite side, I was told that was so they could share a port with a 35mm machine. Don't know if that's true, but it made sense at the time.

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Stephen Furley
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Left handed 16mm machines were quite common; Hortson, Philips, Kinoton and Carpenter, for example. The reason was to save space. I've never seen a pair of 35mm machines like that, but I did see a photo once. There was also the double sided 35/16mm Philips/Kinoton machine, like the one recently seen in the VW advert in the uk, with the projectionist talking about his interpretation of 'Ghostbusters'. I know of several cinemas in London which had these.

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Sebastian Binz
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quote:
by Brad MillerI've never seen a mirrored 35mm projector before. Who makes such a beast?
Indeed our machines are made by Bauer and date back to 1948. They are running very smoothly and most techs we have had in the booth say they are having a better performance than some of the newest projectors.
The design of these machines is actually a really bad one, because they are built so tough that they basically last forever, which led to the bankrupcy of the company. They just couldnt sell new projectors because their old ones were still so reliable and in a great condition.

I wonder whether the 180 twist of the film path will affect the offset though. My second option is to get a platter or larger reels and only set up one of the projectors with SR.D.

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Jeffry L. Johnson
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A projection booth with left and right projectors appears in Wim Wenders' Kings of the Road [Im Lauf der Zeit].

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Benjamin John Doman
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Hi,
The box in the VW advert is the Rio Dalston, London. The other advert with the guy talking outside the 'circle' entrance is the same place. 1 screen circle & stalls. Phillips did make a 'double decker' 35mm based on the FP20 and using the pulsed lamp lamphouse's. Because of the pulser lamphouses were so small, the two mech's could be mounted one above the other. Only ever seen one, it was on display at the Museum of Technology in Prage around 15 years ago.
Regards,
Ben

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Chad Souder
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quote: Mark Gulbrandsen
Dolby also offers the entire LED head from the CAT 701/2 penthouses as an assembly with the LED pre-aligned. This way its alot less painful in the field to replace them.
Would I be able to replace an LED assembly for my CAT 701 and have it be good to go or would it still require an oscilloscope?

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Darryl Spicer
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I just replaced 4 on Ultra-stereo B.A.C.P units and all I had to do was while it was loose look at the error readings on the Dolby CP unit that you are using while using a loop or using the feature to get the lowest numbers and tighten it up. If you are getting a constant red or orange light on the unit you may have to adjust the voltage. It is really simple to do.

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Ken McFall
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Look at the home page of Omnex Pro Film, www.omnexprofilm.co.uk there is a shot of a left handed Westrex 7000. The pics been there for years.... [Big Grin]

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Tony Bandiera Jr
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I have the dual Kinotons at my University (FP38D) and I'll get some pics to share here soon.

I also put a thought into the Dolby Digital wow thread...

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