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Author Topic: Where is the proper place to cut following the second set of change over cues? Chris Slycord Film God Posts: 2986 From: 청주시, 경북도, South Korea Registered: Mar 2007 posted 05-04-2008 04:05 PM                     1) You shouldn't be scratching your prints 2) You shouldn't have oil leaks and should get them fixed 3) If you fixed those, the gears grinding wouldn't be so much of a problem 4) You shouldn't have extreme bulb heat but instead should have the lamphouse ventilated correctly and maybe adding in heat shielding if needed edit: Wouldn't have bothered if I'd noticed he was banned  |  IP: Logged Mark Hajducki Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 500 From: Edinburgh, UK Registered: May 2003 posted 05-04-2008 04:07 PM                     Another nice feature in a footage counter would be an oversized sprocket wheel, with frame lines extending beyond the edge of the film. quote: Derrick Huggins Smoking is illegal in booths? Over here the fire brigade check the presence of a "no smoking" sign in the booth (despite smoking being banned in public space more than 50% enclosed since 2004).  |  IP: Logged James Westbrook Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1133 From: Lubbock, Texas, Usa Registered: Mar 2006 posted 05-04-2008 05:25 PM                     The fellow who trained me in booth 28 years ago, H. Darwin Barnes, used to smoke in the booth and often in the lobby. This was legal to do at the time. He always referred to the cue marks as "cue marks". He even owned a device which would properly make new cue marks if needed. (It resembled a small cement splicer.) He even owned a cement splicer, too. Those who call cue marks "cigarette burns" also often confuse projectors with cameras. This annoyed Darwin, too. He also didn't care for people who referred to carbon-arc lamphousing as "gas lamps". "Just because it has a flame in it does not make it gas fired!"  |  IP: Logged Brad Miller Administrator Posts: 17775 From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall) Registered: May 99 posted 05-04-2008 05:41 PM                     I don't normally do this, but my pal Derrick is being an ass via email so what the heck. It turns out he also goes by another name, Mark Wolfson. Has anyone in the industry heard of either? I'm calling bullshit on everything from this guy and doubt either name is accurate. I feel sorry for people in Miami. The guy has probably been smoking too much weed.  |  IP: Logged Joe Redifer You need a beating today Posts: 12859 From: Denver, Colorado Registered: May 99 posted 05-04-2008 05:50 PM                        Thank you for banning this guy. He was clearly just being a troll with the "Film gets damaged after a couple of weeks anyway so who cares?" comment. Ban his IP. Hell, ban his entire ISP. Unless I use the same ISP.  |  IP: Logged Brad Miller Administrator Posts: 17775 From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall) Registered: May 99 posted 05-04-2008 06:16 PM                     Oh no, he claims he is worried about "identity theft". Heck, I stole your identity just last week Joe, and it was all because I found out your last name was REDIFER by reading these forums! HAHAHA! Yes REDIFER! I now have all of your money.  |  IP: Logged Mike Schulz Expert Film Handler Posts: 122 From: Los Angeles, CA Registered: May 2007 posted 05-04-2008 06:29 PM                     No no no! You have it all wrong, Brad. It's "everybody wants to be like Mike" not "Joe"  |  IP: Logged Joe Redifer You need a beating today Posts: 12859 From: Denver, Colorado Registered: May 99 posted 05-04-2008 07:10 PM                        Damn! So that's where all of my money and credit went.  |  IP: Logged Tim Reed Better Projection Pays Posts: 5246 From: Northampton, PA Registered: Sep 1999 posted 05-04-2008 08:41 PM                       Well, this certainly explains all those crazy, improbable posts he's been making (running lamps with absolutely no blowers, having so much oil on the film that the credits are smeared, slave-driving superiors... etc., etc.).  |  IP: Logged Steve Guttag We forgot the crackers Gromit!!! Posts: 12814 From: Annapolis, MD Registered: Dec 1999 posted 05-04-2008 10:41 PM                     I can't count the number of times I've "repurposed" an old sprocket into a frame marker. Just take the old sprocket to the band saw (or hack saw) and cut it just enough across the sprocket (between the teeth) to have a nice bright shinny line that will never erase/wear out...do it every four teeth on 35mm or every 5-teeth on 70mm and whola you have what you need. You can then add a handle by using a suitably sized shaft (can be an old shaft out of a projector even) and suitable fasteners to keep the sprocket captivated on the shaft but spinning freely (no need for precision here). Steve  |  IP: Logged Justin Hamaker Film God Posts: 2253 From: Lakeport, CA USA Registered: Jan 2004 posted 05-04-2008 11:57 PM                        I had no idea "cigarette burns" was such a taboo term around here. But I do think there is at least one valid reason for not renaming the subject of this thread. Anyone who has been around projection long enough, knows that "cigarette burns" refers to change over cues. But someone relatively new to projection may not know any term other than "cigarette burns" if they even know what they are. With regard to reference frames. I will ALWAYS leave a reference frame on every single head and tail. I have received more than one used print where the projectionist who broke it down didn't bother to put the right heads and/or tails with each reel. The only way I was able to identify which reel was which was the reference frames on the heads and tails.  |  IP: Logged John Hawkinson Film God Posts: 2273 From: Cambridge, MA, USA Registered: Feb 2002 posted 05-05-2008 12:14 AM                     Justin, I certainly hope there aren't places where "cigarette burns" are a more common term than "changeover cues." I guess you're telling me there are. That's just depressing. It's certainly not true around here... Finally got around to taking some pictures. Here's what I recommend for a paper blotter: Zoom on the left: Zoom on the right: And much better than those stupid Neumade film measuring machines (sorry, John and Greg) is a sync block. Probably 1-gang sync block is what you want, but those don't tend to show up used. I can't bring myself to bandsaw down a bigger one, though it's been temptinng. This is a 2-gang: Sorry for the crummy manual color-correction. --jhawk  |  IP: Logged Justin Hamaker Film God Posts: 2253 From: Lakeport, CA USA Registered: Jan 2004 posted 05-05-2008 12:52 AM                        quote: John Hawkinson Justin, I certainly hope there aren't places where "cigarette burns" are a more common term than "changeover cues." I guess you're telling me there are. That's just depressing. It's certainly not true around here... I get the impression many of the regular contributors on FT are old school projectionists who remember "the good old days". While good film handling techniques and practices are still relevant, things like changeover cues really aren't relevant for the vast majority of people handling 35mm film today. The only reason I would care about them is if I need to use them to find the reel end when it ends with a fade. Don't get me wrong, the reason I've started looking at the FT forums is to find information that will help me do my job better. But I do have to balance good practices with what is practical when I don't have a dedicated projectionist.  |  IP: Logged Joe Redifer You need a beating today Posts: 12859 From: Denver, Colorado Registered: May 99 posted 05-05-2008 01:04 AM                        It's not about remembering the "good old days", it's about being efficient and accurate. That goes for using proper terms and whatnot as well. Wouldn't you be a bit peeved if a customer assumed you could rewind the movie for them or pause it since we just use VCRs or DVDs in the booth? It's a similar concept here. If we're all on a different page as far as terms, then it just adds to the overall confusion. Of course that doesn't mean that we don't have old farts like Phil. Don't get us wrong, we're more than happy to answer your question.  |  IP: Logged Justin Hamaker Film God Posts: 2253 From: Lakeport, CA USA Registered: Jan 2004 posted 05-05-2008 01:09 AM                        Actually Joe, I have customers almost every day who think movie theatres are all digital and that movies are projected off of DVDs or similar media. I think that working behind the scenes, we forget that most customers don't know what happens behind the scenes. They just know that the movies are on DVD at home, so they assume it's the same at the movie theatre. And this is especially true with all the noise about digital projection over the last few years. And to answer your question, no I don't get upset when they ask me to pause or rewind the movie.  |  IP: Logged

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