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Author Topic: The stupid are spreading their stupidness Kenneth Wuepper Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1026 From: Saginaw, MI, USA Registered: Feb 2002 posted 07-23-2008 06:25 AM                     Monte The Temple Theatre has screened "The Ten Commandments" in all of its formats. First run road show in 35mm Mag Scope Later we ran the rep Vista Vision version Our last performance was from the new 70mm print as we were the first theatre to screen it after the transfer to video. In fact, we received reel #7 with the sprocket holes torn out on one side. (It really PAYS to inspect all incoming film) They had to over night a replacement reel for the first showing. Seems there was an accident at the transfer lab and they "forgot" to mention it to the film company. We showed it a month before it opened in New York. KEN  |  IP: Logged Mike Blakesley Film God Posts: 12767 From: Forsyth, Montana Registered: Jun 99 posted 07-23-2008 10:00 AM                        That would explain why my DVD of "Commandments" has a taller picture than the typical widescreen DVD of a scope film. I always wondered about that but I knew the whole image was there.  |  IP: Logged Andy Frodsham Expert Film Handler Posts: 238 From: Stoke on Trent, Staffs, UK Registered: Nov 2006 posted 07-23-2008 10:15 AM                     quote: Monte L Fullmer The one theatre that I worked at did have "scrim" (title) curtains along with the main waterfall curtains. When we would begin, the waterfalls would begin to rise with house lights being turned off and the foot lights remained on. Now, that's what I call presentation!  |  IP: Logged Bryan M. Montgomery Film Handler Posts: 47 From: Chillicothe, Ohio Registered: Jul 2007 posted 07-23-2008 11:23 AM                        I'm old enough and lucky enough to of caught the end of the grand old single screen / change-over / carbon arc days when I was a kid. You guys have reminded me of "the good old days" for sure. Sure do miss the grandness and showmanship of those old theaters.  |  IP: Logged Charles Greenlee Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 801 From: Savannah, Ga, U.S. Registered: Jun 2006 posted 07-23-2008 01:03 PM                        I'd do that at the Eisenhower. I'd use the waterfalls. Dim the lights down and back real quick like a min before show. Etc. I actually liked pretending we were a more professional house.  |  IP: Logged Louis Bornwasser Film God Posts: 4441 From: prospect ky usa Registered: Mar 2005 posted 07-23-2008 06:51 PM                        I serviced these wonderful old atmospheric theatres. One, an Eberson, in Louisville still had 70mm from the heyday of the 50-60's along with a D-150 deep curved screen (84 feet around the curve.) Louis  |  IP: Logged Thomas Pitt Master Film Handler Posts: 266 From: Leeds, West Yorkshire, UK Registered: May 2007 posted 07-24-2008 02:48 AM                     I also remember how single-screen cinemas were all about presentation. I don't think I'm old enough to remember carbon-arcs, but I do remember cinemas that did changeovers! I enjoyed the experience of seeing the house lights go down leaving just the curtain warmers/spotlights, and then they too faded out as the curtain raised or parted (horizontal or vertical) The Pictureville and Cubby Broccoli cinemas in Bradford (part of the National Media Museum) can still run changeovers, and do everything manually. It sure brings back memories to see the curtain open and the lights go down in stages! It's very unlikely I'll see a changeover again though, since 99% of multiplex booths are equipped for platter operation - at least in this country. Never again will I see the projectionist miss a cue and the reel tail out! I remember it happening once in the middle of a movie at the (now closed) Lounge Cinema. Took them a few minutes to get it sorted out - the picture came back on with lights full, sound cut off, then the lights went down and sound went back to non-sync, before they finally switched back to the film sound BTW, isn't this thread getting a little off-topic now?  |  IP: Logged Andy Frodsham Expert Film Handler Posts: 238 From: Stoke on Trent, Staffs, UK Registered: Nov 2006 posted 07-24-2008 05:09 AM                     Thomas, We're still running on 6000ft reels (changeovers every 60 minutes or so)! Andy  |  IP: Logged Monte L Fullmer Film God Posts: 8367 From: Nampa, Idaho, USA Registered: Nov 2004 posted 07-24-2008 01:12 PM                     Getting this thread back on topic real quick now: There is this 6plex discount that one house has a two platter assembly, setup in tandem (almost like a mini platter farm) so this one house can play up to 5 movies. Granted, this was an absolute novel concept that I put together for this plex and it really works well, all the booth staff are well trained on handling this setup flawlessly......BUT for one supervisor.... ..somehow this sup (who doesn't care about the job in hand totally) manages to scratch prints in this one house... Now, back to my setup here: Strong AP-3 platters, but one is the 52inch while the other one next to it is the 42inch miniwind variety..and the booth is only 9 ft wide. The 52inch one is an older one that doesn't have any keeper rollers on the tower, whereas the 42inch one is fully loaded with keeper rollers. With the size of the booth and where this is all setup at in the booth, the placement of the 42inch deck fits extremely well where it's at. Back to this problem: The DM of this company, instead of saying that either retrain this sup or this person is gone, suggested that the platters be switched around so that the one with the keeper rollers be placed next to the console so the scratching will stop when this one sup works. (Everyone else has no scratching issues when they work with this system being properly trained) NOW, aint that the most stupidest thing one has ever heard? -Monte [ 07-25-2008, 12:33 PM: Message edited by: Monte L Fullmer ]  |  IP: Logged Brad Miller Administrator Posts: 17775 From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall) Registered: May 99 posted 07-24-2008 01:32 PM                     Keeper rollers aren't that expensive.  |  IP: Logged Monte L Fullmer Film God Posts: 8367 From: Nampa, Idaho, USA Registered: Nov 2004 posted 07-24-2008 02:16 PM                     True, but adding keepers on a STRONG platter, a massive bunch of drilling and tapping has to be added to the tower to fit and we don't have the proper equipment to do such a task - I was presented with this concept before. Even such, why do such an adjustment for one lazy person who doesn't care on what goes on when everyone else can do it right?  |  IP: Logged Joe Redifer You need a beating today Posts: 12859 From: Denver, Colorado Registered: May 99 posted 07-24-2008 05:05 PM                        I had to drill and tap holes on the platter tree for four Strong platters once since the older models were not designed to have keeper rollers anywhere. Pain in the ass! I cannot believe the platter was designed like that. Oh wait... it was a Strong. I don't think they are allowed to hire bright engineers.  |  IP: Logged Louis Bornwasser Film God Posts: 4441 From: prospect ky usa Registered: Mar 2005 posted 07-24-2008 05:58 PM                        Monte: your theory is that if we fix this so an orangatan can do the work OK; they will then be enabled to hire a lower class of orangatan? I concur!! Louis  |  IP: Logged Monte L Fullmer Film God Posts: 8367 From: Nampa, Idaho, USA Registered: Nov 2004 posted 07-24-2008 06:49 PM                     quote: Joe Redifer it was a Strong. I don't think they are allowed to hire bright engineers. ..won't argue that one... quote: Louis Bornwasser they will then be enabled to hire a lower class of orangatan? ...the way some of this market seems to be heading towards - save it for some owners waking up and switching to digital just to save their businesses from such an infestation... ...and I might have to make the same move to save myself so I won't be engulfed in this same sort of infestation. ....................... ...and WHY do booth operators whack off the tail lead of the last reel of the film then don't splice it back on, I'll never know. Don't they know that they CAN leave that leader on as with the other tail leads that needs to come off when assembling prints?? -Monte [ 07-24-2008, 09:12 PM: Message edited by: Monte L Fullmer ]  |  IP: Logged Justin Hamaker Film God Posts: 2253 From: Lakeport, CA USA Registered: Jan 2004 posted 08-08-2008 12:27 PM                        We're opening Mamma Mia today. When I was building up our print last night, I discovered that whoever broke it down at the last theatre used white duct tape to attach some of the heads and tales to the reels. I've been building up prints for about 11 years and this is the first time I've ever seen duct tape used on film.  |  IP: Logged

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