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Jim Henk
Master Film Handler

Posts: 364
From: San Diego, CA
Registered: Feb 2006

posted 11-19-2011 03:20 AM

With just a spot in the upper corner, never had a problem gently wiping down to the inscribed circle. Course, it was fresh. (ten seconds max) Never saw signs of wear.

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Ian Parfrey
Phenomenal Film Handler

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From: Imbil Australia 26 deg 27' 42.66" S 152 deg 42' 23.40" E
Registered: Feb 2009

posted 11-19-2011 04:38 PM

As Steve suggests, clickers are an effective way of having cues with little on-screen presence but an unmissably auditory indication. These work flawlessly on Cinemeccanica's- particularly the Vic 8.

But in contrast, this very reason is why I like the Century curved gate so much. No on-screen presence of splices and virtually noiseless - which kind of makes redundant clickers on these machines.

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Manny Knowles
"What are these things and WHY are they BLUE???"

Posts: 4247
From: Bloomington, IN, USA
Registered: Feb 2002

posted 11-25-2011 02:15 PM

quote: Steve Guttag
How do you wipe it off without abrasions?

Using a fresh piece of Webril, gently wipe away the cue following the direction of the "slash," moving in the direction of the outside edge. I use a fresh portion of the Webril for each wipe. It takes about 3 wipes per frame to remove a cue this way.

I have to admit, however, that I couldn't be 100% sure that this was an abrasion-free approach, because even best prints I've gotten were already abraded. So, just to be sure, I ran a test with a fresh piece of black leader stock and...Zero abrasions.

So far, the archives only specify that cues need to be "removable." They don't specify a preferred method, and they don't specify that the cues need to actually be removed. I'm curious, so I'm going to give one of the archives a call and see what they have to say about this.

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Reece Black
Film Handler

Posts: 59
From: Canberra, Australia
Registered: Oct 2001

posted 11-26-2011 02:52 AM

National Film & Sound Archive of Australia - temporary cues grease pencil ok.
George Eastman House - Grease pencil only, on base side. They usually do it themselves before despatch.
Academy Film Archive - Grease pencil if necessary
National Film Center, Tokyo - change over projection still relatively common there, usually printed cues, smaller than SMPTE standard
Library Of Congress - grease pencil only, base side.
Cineteca Bologna, Film Museum Austriaa, Harvard Film Archive and UNSCA do not specify the temporary cues they prefer in the screening conditions they send out, you would expect they cues to be already there or grease pencil to be used.
Hope that helps.

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