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Author Topic: Changeover on Inglourious Basterds Joe Elliott Master Film Handler Posts: 497 From: Port Orange, Fl USA Registered: Oct 2006 posted 09-16-2009 10:31 PM                     Great system, the crunch, crunch, crunch of the projector lets you know it's time to changeover. Both your film, and the gears. Yeah, I saw that episode too, and cringed at the idea. I was thinking, that nickle is going to stick and end up in the projector.  |  IP: Logged Joe Redifer You need a beating today Posts: 12859 From: Denver, Colorado Registered: May 99 posted 09-16-2009 10:40 PM                        I must see this episode!  |  IP: Logged Randy Stankey Film God Posts: 6539 From: Erie, Pennsylvania Registered: Jun 99 posted 09-16-2009 11:33 PM                     I saw that episode years ago when I was a kid. I thought that was something they really did. A lot like "cigerette burns" that kids think are real, these days. I used to love to watch Columbo. I'd spend the first 10 minutes of the episode figuring out whodunnit. Then I'd spend the rest of the episode trying to figure out which one of Peter Falk's eyes was the glass one.  |  IP: Logged Mike Blakesley Film God Posts: 12767 From: Forsyth, Montana Registered: Jun 99 posted 09-17-2009 12:37 AM                        We had the Hatke bells back in our changeover days. I can still remember the sound. Yes, they could be heard in the balcony but not in the main floor. I didn't even hear them when I was working the booth -- we had to watch the carbons anyway, so it was an easy matter to watch the reel as well. We had a stool next to each projector, so once the threading and other work was done, we would just sit by the machine. I'd keep a paperback book handy, and had trained myself to look at the carbons, the picture and the upper reel after each paragraph of the book I was reading.  |  IP: Logged Stephen Furley Film God Posts: 3059 From: Coulsdon, Croydon, England Registered: May 2002 posted 09-17-2009 01:35 AM                     quote: Bernard Tonks Never did see any of these alarms in any ABC or Odeon cinemas. That might explain why I never saw any; most of the places I visited would have been either Odeon or ABC.  |  IP: Logged Damien Taylor Master Film Handler Posts: 493 From: Perth, Western Australia Registered: Apr 2007 posted 09-17-2009 02:07 AM                     Where can I get some of the Hatkes? I want to make my machine as annoying for my family as possible.  |  IP: Logged John Wilson Film God Posts: 5438 From: Sydney, Australia. Registered: Dec 1999 posted 09-17-2009 03:32 AM                     Nowadays (sorry for stealing your phrasing, Monte) you could simply add a light beam connection to a computer and have any alarm you want...it could play the Psycho theme (reeeent rreeeeent reeeent) or a cute puppy barking. Actually, I think the reeeeent rreeeeeent reeeent would be kind of neat. I must do that.  |  IP: Logged Monte L Fullmer Film God Posts: 8367 From: Nampa, Idaho, USA Registered: Nov 2004 posted 09-17-2009 04:26 AM                      |  IP: Logged Rick Raskin Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1100 From: Manassas Virginia Registered: Jan 2003 posted 09-17-2009 08:21 AM                     I occasionally ran prints where a previous theater had placed three or four splices very close together just before the SM cue. I guess the clack-clack-clack would alert the visually challenged operator of the passing cue. Most of the houses had Hatke alarms which were often muted with masking tape inside the bell. Other versions I encountered were the drop arm which would hit the side of the feed magazine and a centrifugal type rocker attached to the back side of the feed magazine. That type would continuously rock back and forth until enough momentum would cause a bell to ring. When I worked in military theaters there were no reel end alarms. One had to pay attention but with experience you would develop a sense of timing for when a reel was about to run down. True the comment about having to watch the carbons keeping you aware of timing. I also remember the Colombo episode but I believe there was a timer attached to the back side of the lamphouse. I don't recall the coin trick but I have heard some operators did that. I used the term 'operators' and not 'projectionists' for a reason obvious to us old timers.  |  IP: Logged Robert Throop Master Film Handler Posts: 412 From: Vernon, NY USA Registered: Jun 99 posted 09-17-2009 10:51 AM                     quote: Martin McCaffery I remember a reel alarm in an old theatre in downtown LA. It was a footage counter. That was the Cue-Meter. The projectionist measured the footage and set a dial on the meter. There was a one minute warning as well as motor start and co cues. The one I saw used a flashing light rather than an audible cue. The Cinerama Dome in LA had these on Norelcos with 6k reels. A projectionist I worked with built an alarm that consisted of a light on the magazine door and a solar cell on the back window. This operated a relay which switched on a light. Bob  |  IP: Logged Bill Enos Film God Posts: 2081 From: Richmond, Virginia, USA Registered: Apr 2000 posted 09-17-2009 11:28 AM                     I use the Hatke alarms and mute them sometimes, but these days most sound tracks are so loud it's hard to hear the alarm in the booth, in any case the ding of an unmuted alarm or the dink of a muted one is better than a missed changeover. A dust ball in the labyrinth will cause them to fail so once a year I use a straw and blow them out. Ran carbon arcs for 15 years, don't ever want to see one again. Ran 2k reels exclusively for 5 years, don't want them on a continuous basis again either, though we do use them for special events, etc.  |  IP: Logged Randy Stankey Film God Posts: 6539 From: Erie, Pennsylvania Registered: Jun 99 posted 09-17-2009 05:28 PM                     You know, given the technology we have, nowadays, we could pair that up with some standard things that have been used in film for years like foil cues, footage counters, rotary encoders and all those fun things. Why couldn't a cue detector on the projector be connected to a computer in the projection booth? Instead of ringing a bell, the computer would send a text message to your cell phone! Now THAT would be cool! (Of course, your phone would be set for "vibrate.")  |  IP: Logged John Wilson Film God Posts: 5438 From: Sydney, Australia. Registered: Dec 1999 posted 09-17-2009 05:33 PM                     The text message could say: Your reel runs out in 60 seconds. And then a sub-note from your phone service provider...(Please note: Text messages may be up to 60 seconds late)  |  IP: Logged Rick Raskin Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1100 From: Manassas Virginia Registered: Jan 2003 posted 09-17-2009 07:06 PM                     quote: Why couldn't a cue detector on the projector be connected to a computer in the projection booth? Instead of ringing a bell, the computer would send a text message to your cell phone! Why go to all that trouble? I once worked a triple booth that used foil cues to automate changeovers.  |  IP: Logged Karl Borowski Expert Film Handler Posts: 161 From: Sulking in GameFAQ Forum Registered: Sep 2009 posted 09-17-2009 07:14 PM                     Why take something as beautifully low-tech as film and needlessly complicate it with SMS warnings?  |  IP: Logged

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