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Author Topic: Changeover on Inglourious Basterds Joe Redifer You need a beating today Posts: 12859 From: Denver, Colorado Registered: May 99 posted 09-17-2009 07:31 PM                        If you are going to do that, why not just have it cue the next projector start? That way you don't even have to wake up (because all projectionists are lazy).  |  IP: Logged Randy Stankey Film God Posts: 6539 From: Erie, Pennsylvania Registered: Jun 99 posted 09-17-2009 07:34 PM                     But you'd still have to change the reel. The text message should read, "Go change the reel, you lazy bastard!"  |  IP: Logged John Wilson Film God Posts: 5438 From: Sydney, Australia. Registered: Dec 1999 posted 09-17-2009 07:49 PM                     quote: I must see this episode! It's called 'The Forgotten Lady'. Series 5 Episode 1.  |  IP: Logged Joe Redifer You need a beating today Posts: 12859 From: Denver, Colorado Registered: May 99 posted 09-17-2009 08:15 PM                        Is this masterpiece of TV history available anywhere online?  |  IP: Logged Dennis Benjamin Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1445 From: Denton, MD Registered: Feb 2002 posted 09-17-2009 08:18 PM                        I remember that "Columbo" episode also. Didn't it involve subliminal messages on the films being played? Also, didn't the nickel play a major part in figuring out who the murderer was? I think the projectionist was murdered in that epsiode. Anyways.....  |  IP: Logged Phil Hill I love my cootie bug Posts: 7595 From: Hollywood, CA USA Registered: Mar 2000 posted 09-17-2009 08:32 PM                  The episode with the nickel is "Double Exposure". The one with the digital footage counters is "Make Me a Perfect Murder". Both are among my favorites...  |  IP: Logged Frank Angel Film God Posts: 5305 From: Brooklyn NY USA Registered: Dec 1999 posted 09-17-2009 11:18 PM                        The concept of "subliminal messages" can be put into the same class as psychic readings. They are bull. If something is displayed so fast or so quietly as to not be detectable by one or other of the sense, in this case the eyes, then if the eyes are not seeing the image, they are not sending anything to the brain. If the image persists long enough for the eye to see it....then you've seen it and it's no long subliminal, so either way it's still dog turd sandwiches. In a discussion about this, one guy at an SMPTE meeting no less was pontificating and insisted they were putting words in the film frames like DRINK COKE in a single frame and the audience wouldn't be able to see it, but it would make them buy coke. And this was from a projectionist to boot. I didn't even know where to begin explaining that he was out of his freaking mind and should seek immediate psychiatric help or at least get his hands on some really fly drugs. So I just asked if he could see a big blob of dust if it were on a single frame. No, says he, it goes by too fast. It took me quite a while to stop laughing and by the time I did, he had already move on. As for psychics.....how come not one of them, not that mind reader guy who had his own show and would keep guessing names until he got one the person recognized and then said he was communication with that dead person only to have the audience member say, "but he's still alive".... or that fat sow with the gobs of hideous costume jewelry who the otherwise fairly intelligent Montel Williams use to have on...she was one piece of work, anyway, how come not a sing one of all these psychics that rip people off on a daily basis, not one predicted 9/11? The minute some fool say he or she is psychic, someone should throw their sorry ass in tub full of fire ants and ask, "So how come you didn't see THAT coming, MF?"  |  IP: Logged Richard B. Perrine Film Handler Posts: 89 From: Cuyahoga Falls, Ohio Registered: Apr 2000 posted 09-18-2009 08:31 PM                     Ok....the subliminal Bull. The film was Shampoo.....some of the guys I knew who were taking media classes at Kent State wanted to do an experiment. I made them a film loop with the word "thirsty" on it, which I shot on my Arri35. They put it on the 3rd machine and mounted a shutter assembly from a 4X5 still camera on the front of the lens. I don't remember the exact shutter speed that they snapped it at....but is was faster than 1/125. This was done in the disco-tech sequence of the movie....and only on the last show after the concession stand was closed (the theater didn't want to get in trouble ...if it was detectable). They counted 38 people lined up at the drinking fountain. Sub-liminal does work. RBPerrine  |  IP: Logged Frank Angel Film God Posts: 5305 From: Brooklyn NY USA Registered: Dec 1999 posted 09-18-2009 11:26 PM                        Sorry, that's not a double blind test. You don't know if those people wouldn't be there anyway. You can't show cause and effect.  |  IP: Logged Jarret Chessell Master Film Handler Posts: 288 From: London, Ontario, Canada Registered: Jan 2009 posted 09-18-2009 11:46 PM                     I still work in a booth with the bell. I don't think it's too offensive... Just a quiet "ting ting". I really doubt the audience can hear it, I'm sure some were a lot louder. I kind of like it, gives it a real booth feel, well, as close as you can get without breaking out the carbons anyways. If I did hear it in the auditorium I probably wouldn't notice it if I was into the movie, and if I did, it would be a nice reminder that I'm watching a real film. I've seen movies run at other places where I wish they had reel alarms. I recall seeing what I believed was 6000' reels, and I'm pretty sure I saw the reel tail run thru at each change-over.  |  IP: Logged Chris Slycord Film God Posts: 2986 From: 청주시, 경북도, South Korea Registered: Mar 2007 posted 09-19-2009 01:54 AM                     quote: Frank Angel Sorry, that's not a double blind test. You don't know if those people wouldn't be there anyway. You can't show cause and effect. And even then, one double-blind test isn't enough to usually conclude much of anything.  |  IP: Logged Richard P. May Expert Film Handler Posts: 243 From: Los Angeles, CA Registered: Jan 2006 posted 09-19-2009 10:30 AM                     The projectors at the Academy's Goldwyn and Linwood Dunn both have alarm bells. These operations have possibly the most attentive projectionists existing, but have this added insurance against errors.  |  IP: Logged Martin McCaffery Film God Posts: 2481 From: Montgomery, AL Registered: Jun 99 posted 09-19-2009 10:53 AM                        quote: Frank Angel So I just asked if he could see a big blob of dust if it were on a single frame. Or just to bring it up to date, can you see the crap code when watching a film?  |  IP: Logged Steve Guttag We forgot the crackers Gromit!!! Posts: 12814 From: Annapolis, MD Registered: Dec 1999 posted 09-19-2009 12:19 PM                     quote: Richard P. May The projectors at the Academy's Goldwyn and Linwood Dunn both have alarm bells. These operations have possibly the most attentive projectionists existing, but have this added insurance against errors. It doesn't add any insurance against errors...in fact, I've found them to aid in making errors by depending on them. I repeat, an attentive operator does not need nor should have bells...PAY ATTENTION. There is no substitute. I dare say, the guys at the Academy would blow no more changeovers if they had no bells...it is a bad crutch to have. Steve  |  IP: Logged David Stambaugh Film God Posts: 4021 From: Eugene, Oregon Registered: Jan 2002 posted 09-19-2009 12:28 PM                        Way back like 20 years ago I went to a Star Trek marathon film festival. I think it was the Port Theatre in Corona del Mar CA . They did changeovers at that time and the projectors had the bells, and yes they were VERY audible in the auditorium.  |  IP: Logged

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