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Author Topic: So is the Technicolor 3-D any good?? Todd McCracken Master Film Handler Posts: 263 From: Northridge, CA, USA Registered: Mar 2008 posted 06-28-2010 02:35 PM                    I predict this will be a very short lived solution as I dont see studio's wanting to pay for the extra prints. Neat, but I bet the life of this system will be short indeed.  |  IP: Logged Mike Frese Master Film Handler Posts: 465 From: Holts Summit, MO Registered: Jun 2007 posted 06-28-2010 07:10 PM                        I do use the the Tech 3d film system and I was very pleased after running Shrek 4 in 3d. I did 70% greater than my 2nd highest grossing movie. Keep in mind we have no idea what the cost will be after the 3rd year. Technicolor may very well lower the cost if they have decent use of the lens. They may increase the rate as well. For me, I could possibly run as many as 12 movies in 3d over the first year (based on the current announced 3d releases). That will be significantly cheaper than real 3d as the cost to run 6 movies is the same as running 12. The cost comparison does not take into account the cost for the digital equipment 3 years from now. Plus what about exhibitors who do not have access to capital to get the digital equipment today?  |  IP: Logged Louis Bornwasser Film God Posts: 4441 From: prospect ky usa Registered: Mar 2005 posted 06-28-2010 07:51 PM                        FYI: there is NO cost for extra prints. A print is a print is a print. There is a one-time fee for making a film copy of the digital 3D master. After that, no extra for the studio. In other words, one 3D print replaces one 2D print. This is not hard; don't make it so. Louis  |  IP: Logged Victor Liorentas Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 800 From: london ontario canada Registered: May 2009 posted 06-28-2010 09:11 PM                     Has anyone seen or heard much about the Panavision lens system and what happened to Julio?  |  IP: Logged Julio Roberto Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 938 From: Madrid, Madrid, Spain Registered: Oct 2008 posted 06-28-2010 09:30 PM                    quote: Victor Liorentas and what happened to Julio? I was in Vegas at Infocomm and in Orlando at the new Harry Potter thing at the Universal theme park Back now  |  IP: Logged David Kilderry Master Film Handler Posts: 355 From: Melbourne Australia Registered: Sep 1999 posted 08-24-2010 10:51 PM                        I saw Technicolor 3D demonstrated last week and left the screening very impressed. It was sharp, clear and had amazing depth. Those less-technical folks in the demo. were shocked to see at the end that it was actually film running. They all thought it was a digital system........and some of them were theatre owners! In my opinion this is an excellent solution for those who want 3D right now, but not the huge digital cash outlay.  |  IP: Logged Don Furr Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 509 From: Sun City, Ca USA Registered: Nov 2002 posted 10-18-2010 09:12 PM                     Did the Panavision 3D 35mm system ever get off the ground? Don  |  IP: Logged Richard May Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1057 From: Floral Park, NY USA Registered: Aug 2004 posted 10-27-2010 07:17 PM                     Apparently so. I just got a call about it from one of my theaters that may be installing it soon. As far as T3D goes, how many foot lamberts do they require?  |  IP: Logged Victor Liorentas Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 800 From: london ontario canada Registered: May 2009 posted 11-21-2010 05:51 PM                     I must say Megamind is the best Tech 3D i have seen yet!  |  IP: Logged Tom Petrov Five Guys Lover Posts: 1121 From: El Paso, TX Registered: Jan 2003 posted 11-21-2010 06:35 PM                    I have seen it here in the GTA. Looks terrible to me. RealD always look better IMO  |  IP: Logged Frank Angel Film God Posts: 5305 From: Brooklyn NY USA Registered: Dec 1999 posted 11-22-2010 03:18 AM                        35mm T3D by its nature is an add-on to old film projectors, so what the final presentation quality is will be significantly determined by whatever existing equipment the split lens is getting shoved into. The "light engine" (digital speak for lamphouse) in the 35mm projector is what it is, good bad or mediocre. I would venture to guess that in most installs, they will be trying to do this 35mm3D on the cheap. Changing out a lamphouse to get better light on the screen is probably not going to be an option for most theatres. No one will be getting a new lamphouse and projector head so they can be assured of brand new out-of-the-box specs for film 3D presentation, whereas digital 3D was added on to near new 2D digtal equipment. After all, the reason the theatre is going 35mm3D is because it's a poor man's answer to digital. Besides, isn't the acceptable standard now for illumination in digital 3D presentation been adjusted downward to a whopping 3 to 5 foot lamberts? I am assuming that will equally apply to film 3D as well....what's good for the goose, etc.  |  IP: Logged Louis Bornwasser Film God Posts: 4441 From: prospect ky usa Registered: Mar 2005 posted 11-22-2010 10:37 AM                        Yes, that is correct. However. . . there are exceptions. The point of "certification" is to set a minimum standard. The majority of our T3D installations have 50+ foot lamberts. Some are in excess of 130 ft/lm. (Measuring on scope, of course.) I would venture to guess that 50 ft/lm and lower is just minimally adequate for 6 ft/lm of T3D. Boy! You should see what Scope 130 Ft/lm looks like when you use the T3D system! Louis  |  IP: Logged Jim Cassedy Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1661 From: San Francisco, CA Registered: Dec 2006 posted 11-22-2010 01:26 PM                     quote: I must say Megamind is the best Tech 3D i have seen yet! I'll second that opinion, although I must admit I was quite surprised by the 3D cinematography in "Jackass 3D" which also looked very good in T-3D. In fact, I'd say that of all the T-3D features I've run since putting in the system, MEGAMIND looks best, with JACKASS a surpising close 2nd. quote: Frank Angel 35mm T3D by its nature is an add-on to old film projectors, so what the final presentation quality is will be significantly determined by whatever existing equipment the split lens is getting shoved into. Well, yes & no. The techs who came out to pre-inspect our system were rather picky about it being "up to specs". I don't think they'll approve any old system to "shove" the lens into! I do agree that the final result may look a little better in some venues than others. But there appear to be certain minimum standards for both illumination, image steadiness, even lamphouse and gate temperatures (which they measured) before they'll approve a site for installation. I've also found, particularly with my particular installation which was done on a Century JJ, that it takes a bit of care and attention to detail when making the change from FLAT to 3D presentations. It's not just a matter of sticking the lens in. There is some careful alignment that needs to be done in the relative positions of frame and lens centering, projector elevation and the auxillary port and screen masking positions that can greatly affect the final look on screen. Right now, I'm apparantly the only person at 'my' theater who has a good understanding of this. On one of my nights off, someone managed to throw things 'out of whack' and a number of refunds had to be given. I should point out that once I've got things "set" they will generally remain OK for the run of the 3D engagement, although I do run the alignment film at least once a day and definitely when I come in after a day off, since that's usually when someone manages to change an adjustment that I've clearly labeled "do not touch". I can sit down at a piano and make sounds come out, but that doesn't make me a pianist. You can show someone how to run a projector, but that doesn't make them a projectionist.  |  IP: Logged Frank Angel Film God Posts: 5305 From: Brooklyn NY USA Registered: Dec 1999 posted 11-22-2010 04:10 PM                        quote: Jim Cassedy You can show someone how to run a projector, but that doesn't make them a projectionist. Jim -- you mean you don't already have a supply of those cards printed up? I've got my pre-printed supply: "Do No Feakin Touch On Pain Of Loss Of Opposable Thumbs"  |  IP: Logged Mike Frese Master Film Handler Posts: 465 From: Holts Summit, MO Registered: Jun 2007 posted 11-25-2010 05:20 PM                        Frank, I upgraded by lamphouse and projector(rebuilt) when I add the Technicolor 3d system. I was under the impression that the minimal standards needed to run the system were actually set pretty high. Anyone? Louis?  |  IP: Logged

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